reccakun
join:2006-03-16
Brooklyn, NY
| [OOL] OOL Boost performance decrease when connected to router.
Hi, all. I just order OOL Boost today and the download speed with excellent around 28-29Mbits if its directly connected to my computer. Once I hook it up to a router, the download speed dramatically decreases to around 14-15Mbits. I have tried it with 2 different branded routers but didn't help. Is the boost only works when directly connected from Modem to router? Or did I done something wrong? Any help will be appreciated. |
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GeekNJ
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join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ | Re: [OOL] OOL Boost performance decrease when connected to route
It should work fine through a router. What routers have you tried? If your router has SPI, turn it off and try again. |
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reccakun
join:2006-03-16
Brooklyn, NY | reply to reccakun
I tried it with a D-Link DI-524 and Belkin F5D7231-4. Also what is SPI? I don't see that option on the router settings. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | reply to reccakun
This is an old Cablevision secret capping trick. Jim figures if you are using a router you are sharing the connection and caps it. |
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reccakun
join:2006-03-16
Brooklyn, NY | reply to reccakun
Is there a way legally uncap it? |
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deez20
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Holbrook, NY
| speed should be pretty much the same with or without a router. I get about 25-26Mb through my linksys router. according to this link »Optimum Online FAQ »What Routers are Compatible with OOL's 15/2 and 30/5 (BOOST) Plans? the belkin should work and the dlink isn't listed. Might have a setting wrong on the belkin if your not getting proper speed. |
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GeekNJ
Premium
join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
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said by reccakun  :Is there a way legally uncap it? Don't believe batterup . He's just flat out lying!
SPI is an option in some routers. This option inspects every packet. A lot of routers that have this option don't have the horsepower to inspect every packet and not slow down the connection.
Both the routers you posted are wireless. Are you seeing the slower speed when wired?
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WoodyLI
join:2003-04-10
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said by batterup :This is an old Cablevision secret capping trick. Jim figures if you are using a router you are sharing the connection and caps it. This used to be the case and Cablevision specifically forbid the use of routers in it's terms of service but I'd never heard of any capping as a result. That was several years ago and they gradually changed their policy to allow the use of routers but not provide any tech support unless you removed it. Now they fully support routers and even hook them up for you if you request it.
It is still a violation of the terms of service to share the connection with anyone beyond your household but considering the liability of doing that it's not a good idea anyway. You never can be completely sure that nice old man living next door to you isn't a serial child killer stalking kids online using your account. lol
Their boost service department will tell you that running a router will reduce your speeds. Some routers are faster than others. In any case, when you change from a direct connection to a router you should do a hard reboot of your cable modem since the modem ties itself to the MAC address of the first device connected to it.
You could connect to your computer directly and check speeds are good. Then spoof your computer's MAC address in the router and change the name of the router to hide it's identity. If you still have problems try updating the router's firmware or using a third party firmware that may be more optimized for higher speeds. Another option is to build your own router with an old PC and Linux using higher quality NIC cards but that is pretty advanced stuff and you have to run it 24/7 sucking down a lot more electricity than a small router. |
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JoLI
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Had boost for about 5 mts, never gave any real extra speed always 20-21 down or less, up was great. OOL was here 4 times replaced everything from headend (checked it ) to node to pole (all new hardware) right to my modem (splitters) I also have 2 drops one is homerun to OOL modem....Boost never lived up to claims OOL techs, I had a fleet of them here up to regional bigshot, still scratching head. Cancelled boost told no one in my home I did and never heard a complaint. My so is a big gamer WOW 360 PS3 even he has no clue i dropped it. |
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reccakun
join:2006-03-16
Brooklyn, NY
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All the setups I mention are connected through wires. I never like using the wireless option cause it can't utilize the max bandwidth that the router provides. On the D-Link router, I even clone the MAC address of the NIC on my computer but didn't help also. I don't have the belkin router right now, I'll see if it have the SPI setting later tonight when I can get it from my cousin. If that doesn't work, I might have to get a new router or cancel boost  cause it need to connect to a router so my cousin and I could share it. |
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GeekNJ
Premium
join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
| I downloaded one of the Dlink manuals for the 524 and it's not listed as SPI but there are Filters and Firewall options (big buttons on the left side), that would be the equivalent. If you have filtering defined it needs to check all the requests to see if it should allow them or not and that could slow things down. Same for the Firewall options so minimize those to test if there's any improvement.
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StreetSpirit
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Roslyn, NY
 ·Optimum Online
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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said by batterup :This is an old Cablevision secret capping trick. Jim figures if you are using a router you are sharing the connection and caps it. It's one thing to go back and forth and joke when arguing with regular forum posters who are in the know, but it is despicable to reply to a person seriously seeking help with this type of comment.
To the original poster - as people have already mentioned, not all consumer routers can handle the downstream speed. We have a FAQ with a routers that have proven to work well with boost in the forum the links to which have already been posted.
Batterup, I'm really shaking my head man. This wasn't cool.
Dave |
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StreetSpirit
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Roslyn, NY
·Optimum Online
·Verizon Online DSL
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said by WoodyLI :said by batterup :This is an old Cablevision secret capping trick. Jim figures if you are using a router you are sharing the connection and caps it. This used to be the case ... snip Forbidding the use of routers when trying to diagnose a problem and ** FORBIDDING THE USE OF ROUTERS PERIOD ** are two very different things.
If you were diagnosing connectivity, would you rather troubleshoot with a router in the mix, or would you first ask the customer to attach his modem directly to a PC and see if connectivity is restored? I doubt you'd choose the former. I doubt anyone would not take the step and try ruling out the router.
So what in the world is wrong with this? If tech support years ago would require it.. Now I've been using OOL for what, 3 or 4 years now and I've never been told to disconnect my router. By the time I called in, IT WAS ALREADY DISCONNECTED, which is what proper troubleshooting procedure dictates.
Jeez Louise, now they're capping their routers. You and Batterup up with a new one daily.
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WoodyLI
join:2003-04-10
| To clarify. My first OOL subscription specifically stated that the use of a router to share the connection with more than one computer was prohibited. Cablevision reserves the right to disconnect service when in violation of the terms of service.
Please don't quote me out of context or box multiple quotes to throw people off and derail the thread. Before you quote me again or presume certain implications from this post please review my last post. |
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GeekNJ
Premium
join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
| When did you get OOL? I got it in 2001 when it first became available in my area and there was no restriction on using a router.
I went to »www.archive.org and for optimumonline.com the first TOS link is under the Jan 2000 entry and there's no mention of routers in it.
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Ken Peterson
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join:2000-12-08
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said by reccakun :I tried it with a D-Link DI-524 and Belkin F5D7231-4. Also what is SPI? I don't see that option on the router settings. I had this very same DLink router and it always slowed my OOL connection down quite a bit. The CPU in the router couldn't keep up with the speed, IMHO. Try the 624 series. |
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reccakun
join:2006-03-16
Brooklyn, NY
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I have tried the Belkin router also and it didn't work either. So i'm planning to go buy a new router - "D-Link - 802.11g Wireless Router WBR-1310" at bestbuy tomorrow. In the mean time, if anyone have any comment on this router, please let me know. Last, but not least, I wanna thank you all for the help and advice. |
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GeekNJ
Premium
join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
| It's not listed in the data at »Optimum Online FAQ »What Routers are Compatible with OOL's 15/2 and 30/5 (BOOST) Plans? but the list just represents routers people have reported using that didn't slow them down. It's not an exhaustive list (by any means) of all routers which would work fine.
If you get the Dlink and it works, let Irish Shark know so he can update the info.
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Ken Peterson
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join:2000-12-08 | reply to reccakun
That model doesn't look too good according to those who've bought it at NewEgg: »www.newegg.com/Product/Custratin···33127079 |
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Ken Peterson
Premium
join:2000-12-08
| reply to reccakun
If you're going to go BestBuy, at least consider the Netgear Super G Wireless Router Model: WGT624 - Sale: $66.49
»tinyurl.com/692a4 - you should have no problem with this. The SPI feature may slow you down a little but you can always disable it.
If you'd like one of the best routers (IMHO) for the price, check out the Linksys WRT54GL
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···33124190
The cool thing about this router is that your can run 3rd-party firmware on it and have lots more options.
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