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neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
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[Bandwidth Abuse] comcast asked us not to use VPN

What in the world!
We just got a call today from what caller ID says "Comcast Bus Com" and they told us to stop using our VPN connection to work because its "a bandwidth hog"... uh!? I do a TON of work at home and HAVE to use VPN constantly... And they claim the VPN is using "Excessive bandwidth" and "please stop using the VPN or your account will be suppended" it uses maybe 20 GB a month? how is that excessive? and no we dont run P2P programs or anything else, completely firewalled and know every single process on my systems...

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macrospect
All The Little Stuff
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join:2005-08-25
Doylestown, PA

Re: wtf? comcast asked us not to use VPN

My god do those idiots realize how many people rely on VPN. Some good friends of mine are in the same situation where they need VPN to get their work done.

This is getting way out of hand! Like you said VPN hardly eats up any bandwidth.


Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
Austin, TX
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reply to neufuse
You may want to step back and do some overall bandwidth accounting. Chances are good VPN was just picked as the first source that came to mind.
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quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
South FL
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reply to neufuse
Do you have a business account?

»www.comcast.net/terms/subscriber.jsp

Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, the Service is for personal and non-commercial use only and you agree not to use the Service for operation as an Internet service provider, a server site for ftp, telnet, rlogin, e-mail hosting, "web hosting" or other similar applications, for any business enterprise, or as an end-point on a non-Comcast local area network or wide area network.



specify vpn

@mcleodusa.net

Did they specifically say that the VPN was using a lot of bandwidth or did you just assume since they called about bandwidth abuse and you use it only for vpn then that's what they were complaining about?

I guess what I'm really after is that it's entirely possible that you've been cloned by a bandwidth hog. but if they said that it's all vpn traffic then i guess that's not the case.


ecjp

join:2007-01-09
Libertyville, IL

reply to quatrix
In other words, telecommuting is violating the TOS!?


rody_44
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Quakertown, PA
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reply to neufuse
its pretty clear it was a bandwidth abuse warning. they dont do it for 20GB so something is wrong. thousands use vpn so we know they dont have a problem with it. i cant wait to hear the rest of this one. its pretty clear its a rant of some kind. the little info probably means it borders between a troll or joke.


quatrix
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I use VPN full-time myself (with a residential account) and we have several computers, but our total usage still doesn't go over 5 GB a month.



NetFixer
From my cold dead hands
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The Boro
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·Cingular Wireless
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said by ecjp:

In other words, telecommuting is violating the TOS!?
said by rody_44:

thousands use vpn so we know they dont have a problem with it.


As has already been posted by quatrix See Profile, the Comcast TOS for it's residential HSI service does indeed contain a prohibition against using VPN for commercial purposes. The link posted was not directly to the Acceptable Use Policy, so perhaps that confused some readers. Here is the direct link to the Acceptable Use Policy.

And here, is the relevant section of that policy for the hyperlink impaired:
said by Comcast High-Speed Internet Acceptable Use Policy :
Prohibited Uses and Activities

Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using the Service, Customer Equipment, or the Comcast Equipment to:

ix. resell the Service or otherwise make available to anyone outside the Premises the ability to use the Service (i.e. wi-fi, or other methods of networking), in whole or in part, directly or indirectly, or on a bundled or unbundled basis. The Service is for personal and non-commercial use only and you agree not to use the Service for operation as an Internet service provider or for any business enterprise or purpose, or as an end-point on a non-Comcast local area network or wide area network;

Whether or not Comcast routinely and actively enforces this prohibition might be debated, but the prohibition itself is clear enough to anyone with a reasonable understanding of the English language.
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NewLife
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join:2001-07-31
Calhoun, GA

reply to neufuse
I guess that is one of the reasons I have not left my slow ATT DSL for the faster Comcast. My wife depends highly on VPN because of her job where she is on call 24 hours a day. Just when I was thinking of jumping ship, this comes along.
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hobgoblin
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Orchard Park, NY
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said by NewLife:

I guess that is one of the reasons I have not left my slow ATT DSL for the faster Comcast. My wife depends highly on VPN because of her job where she is on call 24 hours a day. Just when I was thinking of jumping ship, this comes along.
There is more to this than meets the eye.....Thousands of people are using VPN's on Comcast services every day.

Hob
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CableTool
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said by hobgoblin:

said by NewLife:

I guess that is one of the reasons I have not left my slow ATT DSL for the faster Comcast. My wife depends highly on VPN because of her job where she is on call 24 hours a day. Just when I was thinking of jumping ship, this comes along.
There is more to this than meets the eye.....Thousands of people are using VPN's on Comcast services every day.

Hob
said by Cabal:

You may want to step back and do some overall bandwidth accounting. Chances are good VPN was just picked as the first source that came to mind.
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neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
Reviews:
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If there is more then meets the eye I'd love to know why they called, they didnt say much besides "You are using a VPN" and "its usage went over 60GB last month"... 60GB?! COMON! That is LOW! I move around a lot of files (I'm a developer) and transfer gigs of stuff almost daily! but last month alone I maxed out at probably 80GB total!... but then they told me not to use the VPN on the comcast network unless I switched to a business account! for only twice the price!..... stupid



hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
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join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:8

said by neufuse:

If there is more then meets the eye I'd love to know why they called, they didnt say much besides "You are using a VPN" and "its usage went over 60GB last month"... 60GB?! COMON! That is LOW! I move around a lot of files (I'm a developer) and transfer gigs of stuff almost daily! but last month alone I maxed out at probably 80GB total!...
You said 20gb in your initial post.

Hob
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rody_44
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA

reply to neufuse
20 to 60 what will it be next. anyones guess.


alfnoid
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join:2002-02-18

reply to neufuse
It would seem that he said comcast said 60 and he said total meaning (depending on how you read it of course) VPN and other traffic was 80.

Either way 80GB isn't really that much and I don't think should be qualified bandwidth hog status. Nowhere near.

I do more than that and don't think I am a heavy user at all.
My router says 200GB for the last two months combined. 173 in and 27 out.


neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA

reply to hobgoblin
I said 20GB as a guess, Comcast told me 60.. I was only estimateing if you read what I said it should be clear



doesnt add up

@mcleodusa.net

reply to rody_44
VPN's themselves aren't prohibited. I have vpn endpoints set up to interconnect my family members in various cites, all of that is non commercial.

This is bandwidth based for sure. They'll never block you from using vpn. Comcast cant determine whether a vpn tunnel is for business or personal use, even if it interconnects with a business it can still be completely non-commercial in nature.

So the real deal here is not VPN use but bandwidth. So how much did you really use? There is no record of comcast calling any user doing less than 200-300GB a month.



herewegoagain

@comcast.net

reply to neufuse
this is how all the bs starts on this forum . tommorow this will be front page "comcast shuts down vpn" so what is it 20-40- 60- 80- 500 who knows. get some hard facts of your bandwith and then post. why on earth if they supposedly told you 60, and your not monitoring it, would you come on here and say 20 ? your guessing you use 20 ???. what a joke this whole thread is and since no one has ever said one thing on here about getting a call for that little id say your whole story is bullshit


rody_44
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA
Reviews:
·Comcast

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reply to neufuse
im sorry, i am having a hard time believing they would mention vpn and amount of bandwidth it consumed. im also having a hard time believing a abuse call would come from comcast bus com. anytime i get any call its always comes up as private or just a number.

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