Lord_Black
join:2006-07-08
Walnut, CA
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Re: He is dreaming
Google's lawyers can beat up Viacom's lawyers.
And you base this on what?
They'll settle.
Grave mistake for Google if they do settle; it could open the door to many more settlements as other litigious companies will file lawsuits against them in the hopes of a quick settlement. |
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RideRed
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| Based on that Viacom's willingness to negotiate. Viacom wants a deal otherwise they wouldn't have bothered negotiating in the first place.
It's certainly not a mistake for Google to settle. That is how these price negotiations work. If it goes to trial and Viacom for some reason loses, their position to negotiate is forever over. Viacom isn't going to risk that. The lawsuit is only to push Google back to the negotiating table.
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FiL
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Silver Spring, MD
| Isn't Viacom one of the biggest busniess' in the world? As in the top 5 most powerful?
I know their a conglomerate, thats certainly true. I laughed when I read Jon Stewart's school text-book on world politics; naming Viacom one of the 5 companies that own the world...heh. Yea, Google can stand up to them!
But its not about that though...its about Google ALREADY complying with their requests to take down content. They TRIED, but your not going to be 100% succesful.
Even then, doesn't Viacom need to send INDIVIDUAL requests on each infraction? I thought that was the law regarding this matter? |
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RideRed
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3 edits | Google is the world's largest media company worth some $140 billion; far larger than Viacom at under $30 billion.
And with Google having 2X the profit margin as Viacom it is likely to stay that way.
Viacom doesn't need to make requests at all...they can sue right out of the box.
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FiL
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| Yea, but under DMCA and the Safe Harbor provision, and Im being specific to the content and actions taken to bring down said content, EACH infraction needs paper work to go along with it. Otherwise Goog can say "we ARE taking ish down" and Viacom can say "they AREN't doing a damn thing".
So with that said, each infraction needs that notification, something Viacom hasn't done. Essentially they can only sue on infractions they informed Goog and YT about. |
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RideRed
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1 edit | If Viacom wasn't interested in a deal they would simply sue. They would go around the DMCA right to Title 17.
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anomus
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| It will settle somehow. Look at that vicious nasty fight between Blackberry and that fly by night patent holding company. The Judge persistently ordered both sides to settle until it finally happened. Both sides know if they hold out and force a judge to do some work, he will be pissed most at the more intransigent holdout. Verison has more to loose here since they are the agressor so a deal will ultimately be struck and Cuban is just a side line pain in the arse just like he is in the basketball games. But Cuban just wants to make more money so more power to him if his antics somehow actually fatten his payday. But he failed to discredit Youtube before the sale so smart people tend to see thru his trash talk. |
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