 qhplar join:2000-07-26 Hackettstown, NJ | Comcast now blocking SMTP? As of this moring I am unable to receive mail on my home Exchange server in NJ. My Firewall shows no traffic at all on port 25. Anyone else having issues with inbound SMTP? |
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 | I just tested sending mail to my server at home and it was received just fine, so port 25 is working on my end. I am not in NJ though |
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 qhplar join:2000-07-26 Hackettstown, NJ | Ok thanks I'll reboot by firewall maybe that will fix it. |
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 | It appears they are in Niles, IL(chicago) I am trying to firgure things out. I called and they claimed port 25 was being routed to 587.
I can telnet smtp.comcast.net through 587 but not 25. However, it does not seem to the case in reverse. People coming into me through port 25 are not being redirected to my port 587.
Looks like I will be leaving comcast soon. |
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 | I am guessing they put some kind of block on me. I have not been able to find anyone else complaining. However it might be related to this recent port redirecting they have done.
What is odd that port 25 incoming is blocked. Last time they tried this crap, it was outbound. Even then, I could still reach port 25 at smtp.comcast.net. Their smtp gateway threw port 587 is asking for some kind of authentication. If I could get that to work it would be OK.... but INCOMING.. i repeat incoming is not working.
I am going to try tech support and spill the beans about my server. If that doesn't work, I found a website about getting your port 25 unblocked. However, funny thing is you have to email them. Lucky I have other email accounts. »www.mailerblog.com/?p=19 |
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 b1gdr3I Blame Your Mother join:2001-07-28 York, PA | reply to qhplar said by qhplar:As of this moring I am unable to receive mail on my home Exchange server in NJ. My Firewall shows no traffic at all on port 25. Anyone else having issues with inbound SMTP? can't complain much since running servers violates the Terms of Service... -- I wasn't born with enough middle fingers. |
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 | Considering I have been using them since the AT&T craziness and the fact that we have been through this in 2004(mass port25 blocking) I can complain a little.
But you are right, it does violate ToS so I will see if the cancellation department can throw it's weight around, then I will try this mystery secure-port25@comcast.net email. If that doesn't work then I will be switching to DSL.
Too bad I like comcast. It was fast and despite being dynamic my IP never changed for years! Unlike some other companies which force you into a new IP every couple of hours. |
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 hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium join:2001-11-25 Orchard Park, NY kudos:4 | reply to qhplar I would fully support a block by all residential ISP's.
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 | I like what they where doing. Which was having abusers/spammers/zombies being "flagged" and blocking them.
I am not even sure if outgoing port 25 is being blocked because for the past several years I have been relaying through smtp.comcast.net like a good little boy.
Why the hell is incoming being blocked! I can deal with not being able to send out email. Hell, I have several other servers that I good relay through if need be.
Blocking inbound port 25 is what is pissing me off. |
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 hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium join:2001-11-25 Orchard Park, NY kudos:4 | Why would the AVERAGE residential customer need incoming port 25 open? What purpose does it serve Mrs Jones?
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 | The average, I use the internet and like having comcast.net hotmail.com yahoo.com at the end of my email, user does not.
In fact the only people who need incoming port 25 are people like me.(there is no harm with allowing incoming)
However, outgoing is another matter. Some people connect to their work email and put in their outgoing email server as using port 25. This is what comcast is trying to change. They are forcing people to switch to the new(ish) standard of using port 587.
But instead of blocking just outgoing.... like they tried doing in the past, they are blocking all port 25s incoming and outgoing. This is a problem for a user like me.
I am still not sure if this is an isolated incident to myself or widespread. However port 25 seems to have stopped working at the beginning of the month, and when I called they already had a scripted response and would not escalate me to a higher tier. So I am under the assumption that this is or is going to be widespread.
I knew this day would come. The good thing of all this is that I will actually pay less for DSL(with a static IP). The bad thing is I lose my cable TV. Which might not be bad because we have been thinking to go full on cable box digital package anyway. |
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 plat2on1 join:2002-08-21 Hopewell Junction, NY | reply to hobgoblin said by hobgoblin:Why would the AVERAGE residential customer need incoming port 25 open? What purpose does it serve Mrs Jones? Hob lets just block them all then, what could someone possibly need all those ports for! |
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 | reply to qhplar Comcast does selectively block certain users through a TB25 config file. It is possible, however, that they have begun blocking port 25 or entire segments of the network. |
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 netdudePremium join:2006-05-18 Denver, CO | reply to qhplar i would think they would block gaming ports, IE common steam ports and port 80 to keep the web servers down. the average computer user is not near savvy enough to be able to hook up an exchange server at their house. |
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 CabalPremium join:2007-01-21 Austin, TX | please block all incoming SYNs. kthxbye. |
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN kudos:2 Reviews:
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| reply to centran Just use one of the many free/cheap external gateway options if you want to host your own mail server. (think redirection to a different delivery port)
I'm fully supportive of Comcast blocking port 25 because there are a multitude of options available for the clueful user to work around the restriction, and it should help to significantly reduce the amount of spam being spewed from Comcast's network.
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 CabalPremium join:2007-01-21 Austin, TX Reviews:
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| said by espaeth:I'm fully supportive of Comcast blocking port 25 because there are a multitude of options available for the clueful user to work around the restriction, and it should help to significantly reduce the amount of spam being spewed from Comcast's network. False. The vast majority of spam comes from zombie computers, which have nothing to do with port 25 inbound. The only thing that blocking port 25 inbound will do is prevent spam via open relay, which hasn't been the default setting in any mail daemon in long, long time. This is most likely why Comcast doesn't block port 25 on a large scale and instead takes action when there is an issue with a particular connection. -- Interested in open source engine management for your Subaru? |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA kudos:4 Reviews:
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| reply to hobgoblin said by hobgoblin:Why would the AVERAGE residential customer need incoming port 25 open? What purpose does it serve Mrs Jones? It allows me to run my own gateway mail server so I can block spam sources, such as Comcast residential zombies. One of the nice perks from my DSL provider. While they do block outbound port 25 as a matter of course (unlike Comcast), they don't block inbound port 25. You do know which is most likely to abused, ね? -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA kudos:4 Reviews:
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| reply to centran said by centran :
However, outgoing is another matter. Some people connect to their work email and put in their outgoing email server as using port 25. This is what comcast is trying to change. They are forcing people to switch to the new(ish) standard of using port 587. "Newish", since 1998, when RFC 2476 was published.
But instead of blocking just outgoing.... like they tried doing in the past, they are blocking all port 25s incoming and outgoing. This is a problem for a user like me.
I am still not sure if this is an isolated incident to myself or widespread. However port 25 seems to have stopped working at the beginning of the month, and when I called they already had a scripted response and would not escalate me to a higher tier. So I am under the assumption that this is or is going to be widespread.
I knew this day would come. The good thing of all this is that I will actually pay less for DSL(with a static IP). The bad thing is I lose my cable TV. Which might not be bad because we have been thinking to go full on cable box digital package anyway. It is odd that they are moving to block inbound port 25. It is outbound port 25 which is the source of abuse. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA kudos:4 Reviews:
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| reply to espaeth said by espaeth:I'm fully supportive of Comcast blocking port 25 because there are a multitude of options available for the clueful user to work around the restriction, and it should help to significantly reduce the amount of spam being spewed from Comcast's network. I don't care about Comcast an inbound port 25. For my server, the problem is Comcast and outbound port 25.
I use "at&t Yahoo! HSI", which does not block inbound port 25, nor does it prohibit mail servers on residential accounts. They do block outbound port 25. Which is not a problem for me. I relay outbound through 'smtpauth.sbcglobal.net'.
If Comcast did the same, it would reduce zombie spam from compromised customers by an order of magnitude, while allowing residential mail servers.
The load that my server puts on the AT&T network is no greater than would be the case if I used my "@pacbell.net" email address and the AT&T mail servers. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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