ke4pym
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC
 ·Verizon BroadbandA..
 ·Packet8
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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Re: If you can't live with it depart with it
said by deadi  :Thats really a bold statement considering there is no real choice in most places. There is -always- a choice. You can choose to have what you've got, or nothing at all. Nothing is always an option. But one most people won't take and the companies of the world know this. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
·Charter Pipeline
| said by ke4pym :said by deadi :Thats really a bold statement considering there is no real choice in most places. There is -always- a choice. You can choose to have what you've got, or nothing at all. Nothing is always an option. But one most people won't take and the companies of the world know this. Dude, you have reviews for two different ISP's and two different VOIP providers.
You don't even have the room to say "nothing at all" is a choice. There are people out there that have uses/obligations that can't be satisfied with "nothing at all" as an option. If this ISP is all that they have to work with, and they use their market stance to offer shoddy service, then people are at a disadvantage and don't really have any other option, do they?
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ke4pym
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC
·Verizon BroadbandA..
·Packet8
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by DaSneaky1D :You don't even have the room to say "nothing at all" is a choice. There are people out there that have uses/obligations that can't be satisfied with "nothing at all" as an option. If this ISP is all that they have to work with, and they use their market stance to offer shoddy service, then people are at a disadvantage and don't really have any other option, do they? Sure I do. Nothing at all is a choice for me as well. However, I'm realtivly content with my service providers, so I continue to pay for my choices. If I weren't and I felt that dialup or changing my lifestyle as to not rely or have use for the internet meant doing away with it, then that is a choice (one I'm willing to make, if it came to it).
People, anymore, refuse to go to the extreme of voting with their wallets by not having any service at all. And, as I said before, the companies know this. So that gives them all the room in the world they need to screw you in the current climate in the US. |
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gefflong
join:2003-02-18
Aledo, IL
| Some of us don't have the luxury of being able to say "no."
I, for one, use my connection for work. If I disconnect, I don't work. I don't work, I don't make money. I don't make money, I have no place to live. I think you get the idea.
If an internet connection is nothing but a luxury, I would agree... having none is an option. However, for those of us who work and make money with our connection, we don't have a choice if there's only one company. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | YEP. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | reply to gefflong
And you are exactly the type of person I was thinking of. |
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xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to gefflong
Not intending to be snitty, but if you are dependent upon broadband for your business, those costs better be in your business model or you are in trouble. If you are depending upon consumer grade connections for something that puts bread on the table, perhaps you should be a fan of any internet access provider.
As a business person, you do realize there is a plethora of choices for connectivity that existed long before the consumer "broadband internet experience", right?
In either case, it still appears that you can work without a connection to the internet. So many possibilities of doing something and transmitting the data from point a to point b without the internet come to mind.
In principle I agree with you.
said by gefflong :Some of us don't have the luxury of being able to say "no." I, for one, use my connection for work. If I disconnect, I don't work. I don't work, I don't make money. I don't make money, I have no place to live. I think you get the idea. If an internet connection is nothing but a luxury, I would agree... having none is an option. However, for those of us who work and make money with our connection, we don't have a choice if there's only one company. |
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LilYoda
Feline with squirel personality disorder
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Mountains
| Depends how you "work" from home. Company I worked for kicked all the workers out of the office to save on office leasing costs.
One day, they said "now you're teleworking. No we don't pay for your internet access at home. Since you're saving on your gas mileage, fork up the internet connection cost. No we don't care that working on a customer grade connection is violating a TOS."
And I know of at least 1 other company that did the same thing. And I'm not talking 10 user employees. Our office had over 500 people, and we had over 100000 employees worldwide.
In my case, I had the choice to work on a basic $40 cable, or cough up an additional $150 a month to get a business grade cable or DSL connection. Hard to swallow if you ask me.
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