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Re: WARNING, parents:your child @ school & porn sites
said by Shrapnel64  :Regardless of what steps a school division (or public facility) takes to prevent the steps of viewing inappropriate or obscene material, there will always be a way around it. We try to stay a few steps ahead of students (especially those in High School), however the more loops you implement into the schools, the less user friendly they are. I will say one thing...our content filtering (Websense) does a pretty nice job at keeping the web sites blocked (although there are legal sites that get blocked as well) and it prevents the Moderate SafeSearch from being turned off on Google and other search engines. We've also got some other methods for throwing red flags up when there are students participating in games and may be doing other extracurricular activities. I don't believe filters are really the issue, in school these kids should be supervised and above all else I would suggest a new curriculum based on the old vestige of Respect. Since when are the kids becoming the control point on how things need to be managed, no matter the size of a class. Something has seriously been lost in terms of responsibility and I don't mean the net workers.
I'm sorry, but the bell tolled when common sense left the building. 'Freedom' is another word for understanding what that means! It's still not a porn issue in my eyes. Most developed Countries have free beaches and a lax attitude to sexuality, but are defined by their ability to manage maturity. Again there are greater issues at stake, as mentioned by Name Game . |
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Regardless of what steps a school division (or public facility) takes to prevent the steps of viewing inappropriate or obscene material, there will always be a way around it.
We try to stay a few steps ahead of students (especially those in High School), however the more loops you implement into the schools, the less user friendly they are.
I will say one thing...our content filtering (Websense) does a pretty nice job at keeping the web sites blocked (although there are legal sites that get blocked as well) and it prevents the Moderate SafeSearch from being turned off on Google and other search engines. We've also got some other methods for throwing red flags up when there are students participating in games and may be doing other extracurricular activities. |
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A lot of parents could start with teaching their brats some decorum in posting in forums; supervised perhaps 
Why did I pay for Home Schooling, let me count the reasons!
School porn, hummm. What's going on that the internet can't be supervised in school? I can at home without much effort; let alone a 'Standing' Teacher in the same room!
I would digress a wee bit, because I think America is overly concerned with wrong issues. I'm reminded of the 15' fence around a 10sq' piece of dirt.
School violence appears to be completely acceptable as nort much is really done about that or the acceptable travesties of violence TV shows, News and radio language; but cover that breast up....Most from most other Countries laugh at this BS, measure your glass of acceptable evil.
But the real issue here is not porn but that very allusive thing that over time has been lost...Respect for others!
I have three girls and a boy, they turned out just fine; but not withstanding the kind of kids they had to deal with and some parents who should never have been parents. Then, the school and media. |
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said by Weirdal :Apparently I have horrible parents who do not know how to raise their own kids...  You miscreant....  |
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said by norky :What I don't understand is your absolutely ridiculous statement not to get into any arguments, but maybe IF some parents raised their children RIGHTtheir children would not even be thinking of porn in the 1st place, Apparently I have horrible parents who do not know how to raise their own kids...
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Re: WARNING about video report
There's something that smacks of payback with that, but I'm not sure what it is.....
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Re: WARNING, parents:your child @ school & porn sites
said by fatness :said by La Luna :She doesn't have a leg to stand on: Unfortunately she does. If the newspaper wants to beat the drum of "Pornography Allowed In Middle Schools!", they'll be able to convince many kneejerk people into demanding changes from the school, and apolgies, and guarantees about "the safety of the children", etc., etc. She and the media could force the school to spend hundreds of hours on this, instead of on teaching. She might force the school to waste time, but the fact is that she signed an agreement (apparently she didn't read it) which included a waiver plainly stating that the school uses filters but they can't control what is on the WWW, and they are not responsible for what a kid *might* stumble upon.
Common sense dictates that sometimes a word that has many meanings may give an objectionable response on occasion when used in a search engine. That is the trade off for having computers that are actually functional as learning tools.
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Well, Jazzy, I do understand and share your concerns about inappropriate material at schools and libraries.
What I don't understand is your absolutely ridiculous statement not to get into any arguments, but maybe IF some parents raised their children RIGHTtheir children would not even be thinking of porn in the 1st place, |
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WARNING about video report
ACCESSING VIDEO |
I have also notified KTRK about the redirects.
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Re: WARNING, parents:your child @ school & porn sites
Maybe kids just need more spankings.  said by original news article :
So she tested her theory at Timberwood Middle School with the help of a librarian.
"Click on images, so we did that and you have the option at the bottom to filter or not," she said. "I said, 'Take the filter off' and she did and asked 'Now what?' and I said 'Type in spank.' And then she pressed 'go' and two minutes later, it was full of naked women all over the screen."
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said by La Luna :She doesn't have a leg to stand on: Unfortunately she does. If the newspaper wants to beat the drum of "Pornography Allowed In Middle Schools!", they'll be able to convince many kneejerk people into demanding changes from the school, and apolgies, and guarantees about "the safety of the children", etc., etc. She and the media could force the school to spend hundreds of hours on this, instead of on teaching.
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believe me it is possible to block basically everything. the district where i work has gone on the overkill blocking sites. in the beginning it was just porn, gambling, now alot of legitimate classroom sites are being blocked. a class came into one of the computer labs last week and they were doing a projct on WWII and the filter blocked a site saying how hitler came to power. there wasnt any nazi propoganda or aryan nation stuff on this site. point being. solution is give no elem kids internet access. middle school students should have a highly restrive policy where they are not allowed many places and allow HS more places. tier the filtering |
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said by amysheehan :The school referenced is a Middle School in HISD. Thanks, missed that.
She doesn't have a leg to stand on:
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said by Thespis : quote:
The forms are standard for all HISD schools.
They are also quite similar to the forms of the districts in which I have worked. Same AUP's in Huntington Beach Union High School District and Palm Springs USD
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The forms are standard for all HISD schools.
They are also quite similar to the forms of the districts in which I have worked. |
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I already knew they had a policy..
And besides my cyberlife here..my sig has always had this link. I am very involved in real life.
»www.missingkids.com/
I would direct your attention to some facts.
Just in Case...Missing
»www.missingkids.com/missingkids/···geId=881
Just in Case...Runaway
»www.missingkids.com/missingkids/···geId=882
"If your child uses online computer services, be advised that while the number of teens who are molested, abducted, or leave home as a result of contacts made on the Internet are relatively low, when it does happen the results can be tragic3, and a quick response is imperative."
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I do not have an agenda..but I do have goals in life. This thread has ragged all over the Schools and Teachers, but I am here to tell you..it really all starts at home..not school..and that comes from the mouths of thousand of children who have been found.
Hug your kids people..to many broken hearts out there ..and I pray you never experience the events.
Be Well,
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The school referenced is a Middle School in HISD.
I've outlined some additional info about monitoring and content and responsibility etc.
The forms are standard for all HISD schools.
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said by amysheehan :....'MOM' needs to review what she's already given her written permission to. See screenshots. Indeed she does. I see something in there about "personal responsibility" of the user, IE, the STUDENTS. I see nothing that absolutely guarantees that students will never, ever stumble upon something objectionable.
I don't think the original article mentioned, but I'm assuming this is a high school, not a grade school?
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How does the Humble ISD AUP support your argument? |
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said by amysheehan :said by La Luna :I'm not sure what this mother expects the school officials to do short of disconnecting from the internet entirely. I don't think she understands that it's almost impossible to filter out every single word/phrase that *could*, in theory, lead to porn sites. Does she prefer the filtering to be so tight as to render it impossible for the kids to even use the computers for what they need them for? Maybe she needs to be educated how filtering works and what it's limitations are when computers are to be used in an educational environment. From the Humble ISD FAQ and student handbook: Go to page 53 » www.humble.k12.tx.us/pdf/2006_07···book.pdfNOTE: Parents & students must sign the Acceptable Use Policy and the authoriztion form on page 55 for specific usage sections in order to access the internet thru any HISD facility. 'MOM' needs to review what she's already given her written permission to. See screenshots. EXCELLANT REPLY amy, THANK YOU
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