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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Dead end

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

I knew AOL was losing subscribers quickly, but a 2 million drop in 1 qtr says AOL is bleeding so quickly that by this time next year they will be down to 3rd or 4th on the list.

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I can't beleive that 13 million people still overpay for AOL. Looking at that link I don't see NetZero on that list so they have less than 100,000 customers same with PeoplePC. They spend a lot on advertising for so few customers.

RadioDoc
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According to their methodology blurb they didn't count BellSouth, either, since BS didn't report. It doesn't look like BS's numbers are in the SBC numbers. Hard to tell since they did not gather the information themselves and make a lot of assumptions about it.

NetZero = United Online, by the way.

Many of those AOL folks are probably using it for backup or on -the-road access and are double-counted with a broadband ISP which does not offer such dialup access as a perk (most cable ISPs, for instance).
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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by RadioDoc See Profile :

According to their methodology blurb they didn't count BellSouth,
Wouldn't Bellsouth's numbers be counted as AT&Ts?

Many of those AOL folks are probably using it for backup or on -the-road access and are double-counted with a broadband ISP which does not offer such dialup access as a perk (most cable ISPs, for instance).
$25 a month for a back-up ISP?


TKJunkMail
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reply to RadioDoc
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Many of those AOL folks are probably using it for backup or on -the-road access and are double-counted with a broadband ISP which does not offer such dialup access as a perk (most cable ISPs, for instance).
Good point. There is another chart that tries to account for double counting because of AOL's BYOA and because some AOL users access the internet thru cable and telco providers.

We try not to count any subscriber twice. For example, a subscriber to EarthLink DSL may also be counted in Covad's DSL numbers and in the ILEC's DSL numbers as well. We therefore do not count EarthLink and Covad broadband towards our total.

We assume that 20 percent of AOL's subscriber base obtains access through another ISP, either as BYOA, or in a more traditional broadband arrangement. As AOL and Road Runner work together more and more, we expect the subscriber bases to overlap more than they do today, and hope that AOL, which is very good about disclosure, will reveal the extent of the subscriber overlap.

This leaves us with the following unique subscriber numbers:


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TKJunkMail
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said by BF69 See Profile :

$25 a month for a back-up ISP?
AOL does offer a limited hours $9.95/mo plan. My sister uses it.
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Wouldn't Bellsouth's numbers be counted as AT&Ts?
Not yet. Doc is right, they don't include BellSouth's yet. I assume it's something regulatory in nature until all the I's are dotted. I think with them, AT&T is the largest ISP. Not sure if they surpass AOL though. I think they might.

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Yeah, I saw that chart. Made me suspicious with Earthlink showing zero subs. Methinks they have more than 100,000 direct accounts.

They've also used the Q3 SBC number there instead of their Q4, and something is wrong with the Embarq number, too. The whole thing seems kind of sloppy.

BS's three million plus subscriber base is not counted here since they did not report, says so right there on the page. If you add those to SBC's they're neck-and-neck with Comcast.
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carpdiem

join:2001-02-11
Cedarburg, WI
reply to TKJunkMail
Why would people use a back up dial up at $9.95 with another ISP when with DSL (through AT&T at least) you get unlimited dial access?


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said by carpdiem See Profile :

Why would people use a back up dial up at $9.95 with another ISP when with DSL (through AT&T at least) you get unlimited dial access?
For my sister, that isn't a backup internet access. That is her primary access from home.

If she needs fast access, she uses the computers at the school where she teaches.
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join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV

reply to RadioDoc
They didn't/couldn't count the AT&T Worldnet accounts, either dial up or DSL, in the SBC totals. SBC only reports their broadband totals. I suspect that there are at least 100 to 300K Worldnet subscribers after deducting the BYOA accounts.

Bellsouth had 3.6M DSL lines at the end of '06 according to the AT&T Q4 conference call.


roamer1
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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

NetZero = United Online, by the way.
and PeoplePC = Earthlink

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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to TKJunkMail
AOL offers an unlimited account as well. just limited Tech support.


art25

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reply to BF69
They have alot of free customers also... I wonder what those numbers are, its probably a pretty large number.


Dezbend
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join:2001-04-20
reply to RadioDoc
I believe the Embarq numbers are correct.
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