hobgoblinSortof Agoblin Premium Member join:2001-11-25 Orchard Park, NY |
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Re: Comcast is using Sandvine to manage P2P Connectionssaid by NormanS:It seems to me that Comcast is spending money on the wrong equipment. Instead of throttling their users, shouldn't they be adding capacity? That question is, largely, rhetorical. As the messenger, I hardly expect you to be able to answer it, anyway. Sandvine can do and does everything that the OP has stated. It also can spot users who unknowingly are spamming the world and shut off their mail access, a subject you talk about continuously. It certainly was used by Adelphia, whether Comcast are using it I don't know but it certainly sounds feasible. Hob |
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said by hobgoblin:Sandvine can do and does everything that the OP has stated. It also can spot users who unknowingly are spamming the world and shut off their mail access, a subject you talk about continuously. It would cost Comcast less to just block outbound port 25 than to spend a wad of money on monitoring hardware which, by my MTA logs, doesn't seem to be working, anyway; assuming that they are employing Sandvine boxes to monitor SMTP traffic. |
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2007-May-13 8:39 pm
funchords stated: "The users on those forums are not informed." Wow !!!!! What a blanket statement !!! I'd say that it is you who are uninformed about the users at the Comcast forums |
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Combat ChuckToo Many Cannibals Premium Member join:2001-11-29 Verona, PA |
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said by NormanS:It would cost Comcast less to just block outbound port 25 than to spend a wad of money on monitoring hardware which, by my MTA logs, doesn't seem to be working, anyway; assuming that they are employing Sandvine boxes to monitor SMTP traffic. If you look at what sandvine product can do it's more than just detect outbound spam. It appears to be more of a general purpose firewall that can do deep packet inspection and take action on what it finds, be that P2P use or outbound spam or a worm. I will say this however, the behavior of bittorrent on my end has changed within the last month. It seems to take longer to get started and as I look at the list of peers right now it shows all peers I'm connected were inbound connections. That doesn't prove anything (it could just be that I've had the torrent running long enough that new peers find me before I find them) but I have noticed a bit of a difference. |
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said by Combat Chuck:If you look at what sandvine product can do it's more than just detect outbound spam. It appears to be more of a general purpose firewall that can do deep packet inspection and take action on what it finds, be that P2P use or outbound spam or a worm. Just giving the goblin some feedback on his comments. What Comcast does; well, it is their network, none of us get to say how they run it. |
actions · 2007-May-13 9:16 pm · (locked) |
hobgoblinSortof Agoblin Premium Member join:2001-11-25 Orchard Park, NY |
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said by NormanS:It would cost Comcast less to just block outbound port 25 than to spend a wad of money on monitoring hardware which, by my MTA logs, doesn't seem to be working, anyway; assuming that they are employing Sandvine boxes to monitor SMTP traffic. How much does a Sandvine Box cost? Hob |
actions · 2007-May-13 9:41 pm · (locked) |
funchordsHello MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA |
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said by paco :funchords stated: "The users on those forums are not informed." Wow !!!!! What a blanket statement !!! I'd say that it is you who are uninformed about the users at the Comcast forums Sorry. "The users on those forums are not anywhere as nearly informed as they are here at BBR." I've been here at BBR for a long time, and I've been a Comcast customer for a long time, too -- and yes, I've been to the forums. Blanket statement -- okay, but I've seen both blankets. So what's wrong with that? |
actions · 2007-May-13 10:34 pm · (locked) |
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System glitch double post. How rare. |
actions · 2007-May-14 3:12 am · (locked) |
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said by hobgoblin:How much does a Sandvine Box cost? How much does it cost to add port 25 to an ACL? |
actions · 2007-May-14 3:13 am · (locked) |