adisor19
join:2004-10-11
 ·Velcom
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Radioactif
 ·Videotron
| 720p FTW
Why pay for Cable or satellite when they still put commercials on ? Either get an antenna on your roof and catch some VSB/DVB-T broadcast or torrent it away.
Love those 720p 1.1GB episodes of Heroes  Best quality evar!
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Ryle
P2P 4EVA
join:2005-03-09
Bellevue, WA | hell yes!
720p Lost, Heroes, 24!! woot!
EZTV rocks |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
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Not quite "Best Quality EVAR". Heroes is broadcast in 1080/60i telecined from 1080/24p. Run the 1080/60i MPEG-2 stream through a pull-up filter and you can see Heroes in glorious 1080/24p. That's "Best Quality EVAR".
It's going to take more than 1.1GB though... the 1080i broadcasts are about 7.5 GB though that includes the commercials. |
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Squidii
join:2004-06-30
Little Rock, AR
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said by adisor19  :... some VSB/DVB-T broadcast or torrent it away. That's ATSC to us Americans, because if Europe does it one way, we by damn sure are going to do it different. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
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said by adisor19 :Love those 720p 1.1GB episodes of Heroes Best quality evar! That's a key point. For a large portion of those TV watchers that care about quality, downloading high quality torrents is a good method to obtain the content. I watch most of my routine TV in this manner since my provider's HD offering is questionable, but I also continue to pay my overpriced CATV bill so I feel that the content providers don't lose out. |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 | reply to Squidii
Err, yes, it's ATSC VSB (Vertical Side Banding) while Europe has the superior DVB-T.
Adi |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | VSB is Vestigal Side Band, not Vertical Side Banding. |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 | Oops, sorry for that
Adi |
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Time4aNAP
Premium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL | reply to russotto
Good catch. |
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Time4aNAP
Premium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
1 edit | reply to adisor19
said by adisor19 :Err, yes, it's ATSC VSB (Vertical Side Banding) while Europe has the superior DVB-T. DVB-T stands for "Digital Video Broadcasting - Terrestrial". That's precisely what ATSC is. Which name is "superior" seems like absurd nit-picking to me.
ATSC in America and DVB-T in Europe both use MPEG2 encoding, so that's a moot issue.
The 8-VSB modulation scheme used by American TV broadcasters is not as robust as the OFDM scheme used by DVB-T broadcasters, everything else being equal. However 8-VSB can cover the same area using 1/10th the transmitter power, making it more energy efficient. Although ATSC stations could simply buy more powerful transmitters to help make up the difference, a revised "E-VSB" modulation scheme is being developed to help with fringe areas.
As an American, I'd prefer to buy a better antenna for my end, and have cleaner air. |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
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said by adisor19 :Why pay for Cable or satellite when they still put commercials on ? Because your cable subscription isn't enough to pay the bills. Much of that money goes into the actual cable infrastructure. Your favorite shows still need a good deal more to stay on the air. Thus you still have commercials. |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Because your cable subscription isn't enough to pay the bills. Much of that money goes into the actual cable infrastructurecable executive's pockets. There, fixed it for you. |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | That's between you and your cable company. Not the shows you watch and the advertisements in between them. |
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