TonyR
join:2007-05-06
Goshen, MA
| reply to v8rail
Re: [DW7000] strange usage
I did a little digging around in the Advanced web pages and wish I had more time to understand what's going on, but I've got to get back to work... if HN had any decency, they would share the information with us.
It looks like the 7-8MB/hour traffic we're seeing recently is PBP (PEP Backbone Protocol) packets. PEP is "Performance Enhancing Proxy" and is the mechanism that HN uses to flow-control TCP traffic to the satellite. Lots of details in the patent: »https://publications.european-patent-off···bug=.pdf
I know a bit about regular Ethernet, but am not knowledgeable about the HN satellite protocols. The best I can figure from my perusal of the patent is that they broadcast PBP packets and the modem handles the ones addressed to it and drops the others. I could not find out why they increased the traffic from 1-3MB/hr to 7-8MB/hr recently. This guess also correlates with an answer that someone posted in another thread where HN claims to traffic we're seeing is addressed to other users.
So... that leaves us in a bit of a quandary as to how to get reliable statistics at the modem end. I had hoped that the "spacelink bytes" on the new hourly history page would be the answer, but they're not since they appear to include the PBP traffic. The "LAN bytes" is not reliable because the TurboPage feature on the modem does pre-fetching of web pages, plus caching to satisfy HTTP requests locally. If you're doing large downloads, such as what Brad R is doing, then the LanTX will correlate closely with the actual usage (especially if you're using FTP.)
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v8rail
join:2003-10-13
Ash Fork, AZ
 ·HughesNet Satellit..
| Tony,
I was thinking something along that line... but on my modem it jumped from 1-2 MB/h to 8-23 MB/h and that just does not look right.
I get also some of this :
TCP Acceleration Error (800.3) - Acceleration Backbones In SYN_SENT State
The HUGHES terminal is experiencing a problem with it's TCP acceleration infrastructure. Retrying the web page may correct the problem.
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DW7000 release 5.4.0.33, 117W:1230, pro, router 66.82.158.77, rate code 256k 2/3 (TC), signal usually 80 |
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v8rail
join:2003-10-13
Ash Fork, AZ
·HughesNet Satellit..
| They say all is normal. Here are the numbers on my modem :
Hour MB Rcvd MB sent TotlRcvd TotlSent RcvRate SndRate
20: 39.985 2.044 39.985 2.044 88.9 4.5
21: 32.549 0.992 72.534 3.036 72.3 2.2
22: 33.675 1.001 106.210 4.037 74.8 2.2
23: 22.585 1.003 128.794 5.040 50.2 2.2
00: 19.618 0.536 148.412 5.576 43.6 1.2
01: 22.701 1.464 171.113 7.039 50.4 3.3
02: 22.668 0.311 193.781 7.350 50.4 0.7
03: 13.649 0.008 207.429 7.358 30.3 0.0
04: 13.742 0.004 221.171 7.362 30.5 0.0
05: 13.645 0.002 234.816 7.365 30.3 0.0
06: 15.922 0.002 250.738 7.367 35.4 0.0
07: 14.742 0.038 265.480 7.405 32.8 0.1
08: 12.880 0.002 278.360 7.407 28.6 0.0
09: 16.096 0.040 294.457 7.446 35.8 0.1
10: 21.006 0.124 315.462 7.570 46.7 0.3
11: 25.022 0.316 340.485 7.886 55.6 0.7
12: 47.562 1.054 388.046 8.940 105.7 2.3
13: 44.587 1.812 432.633 10.752 99.1 4.0
14: 41.284 0.564 473.917 11.316 91.7 1.3
15: 47.136 1.014 521.054 12.330 104.7 2.3
16: 40.965 0.729 562.019 13.059 91.0 1.6
17: 37.855 0.768 599.874 13.827 84.1 1.7
18: 41.178 0.871 641.052 14.698 91.5 1.9
19: 37.541 0.635 678.593 15.333 83.4 1.4
and that is going on since 9:30 that morning. usage from the "useless usage page" is around 350MB in 24 hours, the same for lan.... I hope this 300-400MB extra bandwidth usage is really just a strange broadcast traffic....... 
But as long as I do not get faped for this extra traffic I do not care any longer. India and executive are informed and both say it's normal .... so it must be ... right? 
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trekboy
join:2006-08-16
Benton, PA
·HughesNet Satellit..
| I don't think it counts against FAP, yesterday mine said about 580MB rolling 24 hours total, and my own monitoring program (and the Official Usage Page) said about 350MB. If it did, I would be completely outraged, because when I had 50MB/day usage, the Advanced Diag Page said I used over 200MB/day.
Although I now know that we do have a bucket, because later I had a 400MB rolling total (according to the Official Usage Page) and didn't get FAPPED.
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