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Tzale
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Re: Average U.S. Broadband Speed: 1.9Mbps

said by maartena See Profile :

said by Tzale See Profile :

You can't compare us to other countries... It's as simple as that, they are densely populated, we are really spread out.
First off, although 90% of Canada lives near the U.S. border, they also have only about 30 million inhabitants. Southern Ontario (the 100 miles closest to the US and Toronto Area) is pretty much the same as Pennsylvania or Ohio if you are looking at population density.

Second, it doesn't explain why there are so many large metropolitan areas in the U.S. that still have lousy broadband. In the Greater Los Angeles Area, about 0.3% of the population can actually get FIOS, although about 50% of the population are connected to Verizon, (the other half is AT&T/former SBC). If you want to go fast, Time Warner is your only option. There are no DSL2 and hardly any FIOS rollouts in the Los Angeles area.

And to compare once again to a foreign country: There are several European countries who started offering DSL2 as early as 2004 with 12 to 20 Mbps downstream and 1 Mbps upstream. Three years later, you cannot get 20 Mbps ANYWHERE in the United States using DSL2 technology. Not even in dense populated cities.

Why is it that a 50 million people city like Tokyo can be fibered up for more then 50% already, and the United States can't even fiber up Manhattan?
I am fully aware of the population of Canada. They are still a much smaller area to cover than here in the States. LA doesn't have "lousy" broadband... FIOS is being rolled out as fast as it can be, what do you want them to do???? It's a service, not frigging life support.

And just so you know Verizon IS wiring up Manhattan and the surround tri-state area... My town is being wired as we speak... I wouldn't say NY doesn't have broadband options, it is the telecommunications capitol of the world and they DO have a variety of services. Europe is much more dense than the United States. There is a lot of work that needs to be done in the United States, but we aren't as bad as you guys make it out to be.

FIOS/FTTH is the future, Verizon is working hard on getting it rolled out. They just started a few years ago, give them time. It's not easy replacing all the copper with fiber, it will take 10-15 years for 99% of their customers to receive service, but they are quickly making progress in urban areas as we speak.

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maartena
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said by Tzale See Profile :

FIOS/FTTH is the future, Verizon is working hard on getting it rolled out. They just started a few years ago, give them time. It's not easy replacing all the copper with fiber, it will take 10-15 years for 99% of their customers to receive service, but they are quickly making progress in urban areas as we speak.
Unfortunately, Verizon only controls about 33% of the US market, and their main competitors like AT&T aren't bringing fiber to the home.

Verizon is also serving a lot of areas that are in the middle of nowhere, and eventually, in the next 10 years or so, maybe 20% of the US population will have access to fiber to the home, while those who live in AT&T, QWest, or other territories will probably have to wait till they realize that DSL really isn't going to cut it.....
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