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hadirtyJlo

join:2004-03-31
Elk Grove, CA

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Got a good one from comcast

I don't really check my email much, at least not my comcast.net email, as I have nothing going to it. Decided to check it today and lo and behold there's a DMCA notice. Now, I'm not going to be cute and say I don't torrent. I do, but I'm also nice about it in that I limit my upstream and downstream so as not to completely max my connection out. Gist of the notice as follows:

Infringement Source: BitTorrent
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 16 May 2007 10:30:16 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 19 May 2007 04:27:05 GMT
Infringer Username:
Infringing Filename: Heroes.S01E07.HR.HDTV.AC3.5.1.XviD-NBS.avi
Infringing File size: 722874368
Infringers IP Address: 71.xxx.xxx.xxx
Infringers DNS Name: c-71-xxx-xxx-xxx.hsd1.al.comcast.net
Infringing URL: »eztv.sladinki007.net:60500/announce

Reading through this notice, there's several oddities. The first being the actual file name. The eztv tracker will almost always be limited to actual EZTV files, and something named as atrociously as this one, plus being part of another "scene" would never have been on their tracker. Secondly is the file size. Standard HDTV rip of an hour program is right around 360mb-380mb, not 700mb+. Third is the time in question. That was right in the middle of some of the worst of my issues with comcast, multiple disconnects per day, extremely slow speeds, etc. There's no way I was going to try to pick up anything I'd consider necessary like a back episode of Heroes with my connection on the fritz. There's also the fact that when this supposedly ended, I was actually at work being harassed by idiot customers who can't read price labels. Fourth, and this is the funny part, the last activity in my Heroes folder was back on March 7th. The last activity for this particular episode was back in late 2006. That and the file in question is no where to be found. Not on any drives, not on any temp drives, not on any removable media.

Now, before anyone gets wonky about my connection, it's a secured wireless network, WPA2, and it's secured with a ridiculously long password that I don't remember, but it's about 25-30 characters and fairly random. Yes it is shared by two other computers in the house, however, in my attempts to fix my connection, I'd disabled the wireless for about 2-3 weeks, and this falls squarely in the middle.

All in all, I'm going to take this notice pretty lightly, as I don't have the file, and have never had the file on my computer. All I see out of this is that they found someone torrenting off an IP address, with completely wrong info mind you, and they didn't try to research it far enough and just slapped the last person that had the IP address, whether or not I actually had it during that time. I'd have no problem allowing someone to look for that specific file, and that file only, on my hard drive, even using software that pulls files from the dead, as it has never been on any of my computers. Anything else will require another notice delineating a specific filename.

DJ

IP addy edited out even though I haven't had that one for a long time now.


Middleburg

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RoCJester

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LOL, 0wn3d...



mdmaddox
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join:2002-12-29
Federal Way, WA

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reply to hadirtyJlo

Welcome to the club! Comcast is not perfect.

That's GMT time so you have to subtracted 4 hours if you are on east coast time during DST.

Make sure the dns is the right one for your house.



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said by mdmaddox:

That's GMT time so you have to subtracted 4 hours if you are on east coast time during DST.
Or perhaps five hours, since Huntsville, AL is on US CDT.

said by mdmaddox:

Make sure the dns is the right one for your house.
Not quite sure what the OP's choice of DNS servers has to do with this?
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jbob
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Little Rock, AR
reply to hadirtyJlo

Sounds like something the EFF lawyers might need. If they are wrong about your IP kinda makes you wonder about all the others who got the letter or were actually sued. Can you imagine someone having to pay thousands in a lawsuit only to find out Comcast or any other ISP got it wrong?



mdmaddox
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Federal Way, WA
reply to NetFixer

That DNS is the last hope anyone will see if they trace your current IP address back to you. So in my case if the DNS show up in PA and I'm in WA then something is wrong.

If you can trust someone to run a trace to your IP or try it from your work you can quickly tell if the notice is legit or not.



paco

@comcast.net

HUH ????????



mdmaddox
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paco

Flame me if you want! I'm sure there is a better way to say it. This might help or not.
»Notice of Action under the Digital Millennium Copyright



jbob
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reply to paco

said by paco :

HUH ????????
I think he means the HOST DNS, final hop or Host name, not a DNS server. Even the info provided in the email/letter shows Infringers DNS Address: C-71... blah blah blah


mdmaddox
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Thanks for the help!



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said by mdmaddox:

That DNS is the last hope anyone will see if they trace your current IP address back to you. So in my case if the DNS show up in PA and I'm in WA then something is wrong.

If you can trust someone to run a trace to your IP or try it from your work you can quickly tell if the notice is legit or not.
said by jbob:

I think he means the HOST DNS, final hop or Host name, not a DNS server. Even the info provided in the email/letter shows Infringers DNS Address: C-71... blah blah blah
said by mdmaddox:

Thanks for the help!
The text string that is used for the pseudo hostname assigned to an end user's dynamic IP address is totally meaningless. It can be whatever the network tech who keys it in wants it to be (in fact there is no requirement for a hostname at all). In the case of a national ISP like Comcast, even the semi-traditional city-state part of that text string is only accurate if someone bothers to change it when the associated IP address block is moved from San Francisco to Chicago to Boston as frequently happens. The only thing that matters in the case of a copyright infringement notification is if the ISP's database says that the IP address in question was assigned to a specific user on the date/time in question (and good luck proving that it was not assigned to you if the ISP says it was). Maybe that would be a good reason to use the DSLR 24/7 line monitoring service, but that could be a two edge sword if it proved the the IP address in question actually was in use by you during the time in question.
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clear it up

@comcast.net

Hi just want to clear up a few things. In the file name is the tag HR which means it's a high resolution video that will be roughly twice the size of the normal releases. or about 700 MB.

Secondly I've NEVER seen anyone get a notice like this on a file that has been rar'd or zipped. I suggest sticking to those in the future.


hadirtyJlo

join:2004-03-31
Elk Grove, CA

Actually, the HD rips of TV shows that I see are only about 350mb, it's that wonderful XviD codec. I understand that the HR might mean it's a bit bigger, but at the same time it still doesn't fit. I don't have anything even remotely resembling that file name, nor would I download something that's twice the size I'd need. Comcast screwed the pooch on this one, no matter what kind of evidence they might have. Already sent an email to the dmca address given explaining the situation. Did some checking and it looks like I did have the IP address in question during that period of time, however, the fact remains that no one in the house downloaded the file, and my wireless was turned off during that period, AND I have never touched a 700mb TV episode, ever.

DJ



mdmaddox
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reply to NetFixer

It's just not that straight forward if you keep digging. You may find that the MAC that was assigned that IP isn't your's and or that you are only paying for IP but comcast has assigned 2 of them to you at the same time!

You have to look behind the curtain! In this post so far the replay has been that all these other point are prone to error and the lack of the ISP keeping up with there network but yet you want or believe then that the one database if beyond error!



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said by mdmaddox:

It's just not that straight forward if you keep digging. You may find that the MAC that was assigned that IP isn't your's and or that you are only paying for IP but comcast has assigned 2 of them to you at the same time!

You have to look behind the curtain! In this post so far the replay has been that all these other point are prone to error and the lack of the ISP keeping up with there network but yet you want or believe then that the one database if beyond error!
But none of that has anything to do with your other vague statements "Make sure the dns is the right one for your house" and "That DNS is the last hope anyone will see if they trace your current IP address back to you" which are apparently a reference to the often meaningless pseudo hostname assigned by an ISP to an end user's dynamic IP address.

Here are a few examples which have been discussed in this forum which illustrate the arbitrary text strings which may be used as a pseudo hostname for a dynamic IP assigned to an end user (or even a router or switch), and why those values would be meaningless in a judicial proceeding.

»IP Address Resolves to an out of State Hostname
»Wierd issue with my IP
»[Connectivity] Tracrt reveals I go through Europe
»Domain question
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reply to mdmaddox

said by mdmaddox:

That DNS is the last hope anyone will see if they trace your current IP address back to you. So in my case if the DNS show up in PA and I'm in WA then something is wrong.
OIC...you meant, "rDNS name".
If you can trust someone to run a trace to your IP or try it from your work you can quickly tell if the notice is legit or not.
You can run a trace back here:

»www.dnsstuff.com/

Use the "Traceroute" under "Hostname Test". You can just plug in the IP address from the letter; but you have to respond to pings. Because a cable modem is a bridge, that means configuration of either router, or firewall.
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TomTome

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reply to jbob

Re: Got a good one from comcast

The wierd thing before we ditched comcast HSI we got a DCMA notice saying that we downloaded Fedora!!!! from BitTorrent... FEDORA! you know the free linux distro that is distributed via bittorrent.... gawd some of the DCMA notices never make sense... someone in the local unversity also got a DCMA notice for a video they made of themselves being downloaded off their system.. they called it Paramount something i cant remember, but then they gota a DCMA notice from Paramount Pictures to cease and decist seeding their "movie" well it was a home movie and paramount pictures doesnt own the name "Paramount"