DSL Lab Rat
Runnin' On The Wheel
join:2001-04-18
Pelham, AL
clubs:
2 edits | [Services] AT&T to block pirated content
In an unprecedented move, AT&T announced today it's intention to begin blocking what it determines to be pirated content....
»www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?···AndMedia
"AT&T on Wednesday became the first major U.S. telecommunications carrier to announce that it was taking steps to curb Internet piracy on its network.
The move marks a surprising reversal for AT&T, given that telecoms and cable companies have traditionally stood behind legal protections to avoid responsibility for copyrighted movies and music flowing through their pipes.
"What we're trying to do in our piracy initiative is to try to come up with a network-based solution", AT&T head of external and legislative affairs Jim Cicconi said during a panel about rights management at the Digital Hollywood conference in Santa Monica." |
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pas1972
join:2000-10-22
Hanceville, AL
| What they're going to wind up doing is chasing off a majority of their subscribers, who can go to cable and not worry about anti piracy measures.
It honestly sounds like another case of big business listening to lobbyist rather than to the consumers that support them. |
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madmax2000
Premium
join:2007-04-25
Lookout, KY | reply to DSL Lab Rat
cable companys just rate limit their customers who download illegal things and who have to deal with shared bandwidth. |
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boast
join:2005-09-03
Miami, FL | If this is does get executed, I won't hesitate to drop AT&T. |
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pas1972
join:2000-10-22
Hanceville, AL
| reply to madmax2000
said by madmax2000  :cable companys just rate limit their customers who download illegal things and who have to deal with shared bandwidth. Their limits are pretty high though, more than I'd ever download in a month. If AT&T implements some type of IP or packet filtering for torrents and the like, I'll be switching over to cable for sure. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| reply to DSL Lab Rat
said by DSL Lab Rat :In an unprecedented move, AT&T announced today it's intention to begin blocking what it determines to be pirated content.... With this move, will they drop all Usenet Servers that they host (Bellsouth, AT&T, SBC)?
And more important, does not this move cause them to lose their coveted "Common Carrier" status?
Regards,
Doctor Olds
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GreatGoogly
@bellsouth.net | Would this mean they'd only drop their own server access or also implement the means to block a user from using a different newshosting company? |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| said by GreatGoogly :
Would this mean they'd only drop their own server access or also implement the means to block a user from using a different newshosting company?
According to the "a network-based solution" that means from *any* source as they are going to block it from being able to enter their network period. Since they are aligning themselves with Hollywood, they would have to block it from the entire network.
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tidal
Tidal
Premium
join:2001-01-18
Madison, AL | reply to DSL Lab Rat
Yeah I'll be dropping my DSL if that happens. I grew up in Germany so getting German content in the US is impossible. I love how short sighted companies are and how they only care about covering their a$$es. |
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FAQFixer
Premium
join:2004-06-28
Powder Springs, GA
| reply to Doctor Olds
said by Doctor Olds :said by DSL Lab Rat :In an unprecedented move, AT&T announced today it's intention to begin blocking what it determines to be pirated content.... With this move, will they drop all Usenet Servers that they host (Bellsouth, AT&T, SBC)? Hopefully!!!! Second only to P2P applications, Usenet is the single largest distribution source of pirated and copyrighted material. |
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JALman
Pubber To The Stars
join:2005-10-12
usa | Now I gotta make a "Civil War" banner with "I'm with the EFF" sloppily placed. |
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Trimline
Premium
join:2004-10-24
Orlando, FL
 ·Callcentric
 ·AT&T Southeast
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to DSL Lab Rat
Good information. Road Runner is using "packet shaping", see a very long thread here - »[TWC] TW Officially Announces Packet Shaping for All RR Users
As for myself, I just don't understand why anyone would want to spend the time to copy movies or CD's (not to mention exposing your PC to viruses and hackers). Not only does it take a lot of time and materials, you can instead go to your neighborhood Blockbuster and buy 4 movies for $20.00, or E-Bay hard to find movies. As for CD's, I shop on-line. Just ordered 8 music CD's for $40.00. I realize I shop for bargains, but at least my favorite entertainers get some type of royalty pay.
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Claybraker
join:2002-04-13
none
| reply to FAQFixer
said by FAQFixer : Hopefully!!!! Second only to P2P applications, Usenet is the single largest distribution source of pirated and copyrighted material. Why don't you just rent a billboard and announce it to the whole friggin world?
Sheesh.
That's all we need, another batch of newbies with their 64kbs crap. |
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FAQFixer
Premium
join:2004-06-28
Powder Springs, GA
2 edits | said by Claybraker :said by FAQFixer : Hopefully!!!! Second only to P2P applications, Usenet is the single largest distribution source of pirated and copyrighted material. Why don't you just rent a billboard and announce it to the whole friggin world? Sheesh. That's all we need, another batch of newbies with their 64kbs crap. Sorry about that. The good news is Usenet is definitely not friendly for newbies. The wierdo/screwball/can't take direct sunlight/never kissed a girl before/hardcore nut case/I live in my parent's basement/local charter member of the Amiga Club/I soiled myself waiting for a multi-part binary to download population usually scares them off in minutes. 
Of course I'm not talking about any of you guys.
It's like that lady who used to say, "Whenever you are in a large crowd always try to identify the crazy looking, insane person. If you can't find them...it's you!"  |
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beldin
Permanently barned
Premium
join:2006-06-06
Union, SC
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to DSL Lab Rat
I know it's weird, but there are only a couple of people at work that have any idea what the Usenet actually is. When a customer has a problem getting access to newsgroups, they always send 'em to me and I get it resolved in a blink.
You'd think that people that do tech support for ISPs would at least know what news groups are and how to access them. Of course, most of the people that I work with are still in high school. I guess there are few of us left that remember the days of Gopher, Telnet, Finger, Whois and most especially Usenet.
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Claybraker
join:2002-04-13
none
| reply to FAQFixer
said by FAQFixer :said by Claybraker :said by FAQFixer : Hopefully!!!! Second only to P2P applications, Usenet is the single largest distribution source of pirated and copyrighted material. Why don't you just rent a billboard and announce it to the whole friggin world? Sheesh. That's all we need, another batch of newbies with their 64kbs crap. Sorry about that. The good news is Usenet is definitely not friendly for newbies. The wierdo/screwball/can't take direct sunlight/never kissed a girl before/hardcore nut case/I live in my parent's basement/local charter member of the Amiga Club/I soiled myself waiting for a multi-part binary to download population usually scares them off in minutes. Of course I'm not talking about any of you guys. It like that lady who used to say, "Whenever you are in a large crowd always try to identify the crazy looking, insane person. If you can't find them...it's you!" It's fallen from it's former glory, but alt.usenet.kooks used to be one of my favorite haunts. I even had a highly coveted @lart.com email address from Taylor Netscum. You can't buy one of those, they have to be earned.
»www.lart.com/
Long live the cabal. TINC.
Long live the lumber cartel. TINLC. |
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DV0407
join:2007-02-10
Orlando, FL
| oh crap id drop dsl in a sec with this, BUT i cant get cable yet and on top of that the cable company thats installing cable in my area is none other than Bright House. So id have to get earthlink form them instead of RR....but i hate earthlink and it doesnt have as high speeds.  |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
2 edits | said by DV0407 :i cant get cable yet and on top of that the cable company thats installing cable in my area is none other than Bright House. So id have to get earthlink form them instead of RR....but i hate earthlink and it doesnt have as high speeds. I think you are highly confused as Earthlink is not a forced provider (it is one option, but you do not have to choose it) and the speeds are indeed higher.
»cfl.mybrighthouse.com/products_a···ult.aspx
quote:
Bright House Networks High Speed Internet Service VERSUS DSL
We offer you a choice of High Speed Internet providers: Road Runner High Speed Online, Road Runner Premium and Road Runner Lite, EarthLink High Speed Internet or EarthLink Lite. You choose which works best for you!
Our top speeds let you surf the Web at up to a blazing 10Mbps! Road Runner Premium is up to 180 times faster than dial-up. With DSL your top speed offer is only 6Mbps - that's 1Mbps slower than our standard speed!
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GreatGoogly
@bellsouth.net
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beldin, that's funny about what you said about Usenet. I'm not that tech saavy, but figured it out easily with online directions. I have two friends I've tried to push into the Newsgroups direction, but they both seem to think it's too hard. One is a Ga. Tech math grad! The other works in a technical job at a TV station. This cracks me up. They both think I'm computer-smart. No way, I just realize that almost any computer problem can be explained by others online. |
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DV0407
join:2007-02-10
Orlando, FL | Doctor Olds i actually said earthlink because i wouldnt get the packet shaving with them, cause if you see several post above it says RR is doing the same. and by speeds i meant Eearthlink doesnt offer the speeds RR does. |
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