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Dr Tweak
join:2004-09-23
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| Re: Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift.. Just uncheck ISwift, why is that so hard?
To add a note... I'm a Kaspersky reseller and have been installing KL products on machines since version 4, hundreds of installs, and have never seen this issue once. I can't help but to think it is a conflict with another installed application on the computer.
I'm not saying it is or isn't, just making the observation that with as many installs as I have done never has this problem occurred.
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StraitShoot
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3 edits | Re: Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift.. Respectfully, why are there soooo many others complaininng about the same issue I am having, too?
Why is Chkdsk now soooo dreadfully slow at stage 2 and it was fine before I installed the software?
Why is my problem still there after I totally uninstalled KIS6?
I along with others, need a solution, perhaps in the form of a cleanup tool. I read through all the forum posts of both the KAV forum and the DSL Reports forum.
It isn't another software, it's Kaspersky, you know it and I know it.
Sorry you're a reseller, but frankly, that's your problem. My problem is getting rid of what ISWift installed.. Many others have the same problem too.. I'm looking to solve my problem, not get involved with KAV and KIS6 users and resellers who will stop at nothing to defend KAV-KIS6.
PS.. The damage is done. I already installed KIS 6. Too late now to uncheck ISwift.
Jim
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| Re: Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift.. Just curious about this issue.
I have not seen an issue with chkdsk, and wonder why. Not that I'm trying to say it doesn't exsist, nor trying to sell this topic short. It does seem to be an issue with some I'll admit going by the long thread there, but I can't for the life of me understand why some do and some don't.
You would almost be forgiven to think it is a conflict with hardware drivers, maybe certain HDD's and the way they operate.
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StraitShoot
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1 edit | Re: Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift.. said by norwegian  :Just curious about this issue. I have not seen an issue with chkdsk, and wonder why. Not that I'm trying to say it doesn't exsist, nor trying to sell this topic short. It does seem to be an issue with some I'll admit going by the long thread there, but I can't for the life of me understand why some do and some don't. You would almost be forgiven to think it is a conflict with hardware drivers, maybe certain HDD's and the way they operate. The issue I have with KAV-KIS6 is that, after uninstalling it, those "ISWift Hooks" are still attached to files. Pardon me but uninstalling means just that. I didn't start the complaints, I just recently joined them. KAV should put a warning label on it's boxed software and on it's website. That way, I would have unchecked Iswift and whatever the hell else it superglued to my files and system.
I am NOT going to spend energy on anything else except this;
HOW DO I GET RID OF THESE "File Thetans!" LOL..
Jim
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1 edit | Re: Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift.. Presently I have no answer, but seeing as this topic has started, maybe we can bring it to the devs attention, as long as we are specific to the needs required
Doing a google finds this
»webtools.live2support.com/windows/fsutil.php
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Sparse files provide a method of saving disk space for files that contain meaningful data as well as large sections of data composed of zeros. If an NTFS file is marked as sparse, then disk clusters are allocated only for the data explicitly specified by the application.
e.g. The Indexing Service, stores it's catalogs as sparse files.
With 8.3 filennames disabled you'll notice a performance improvement only with a large number of files (over 300,000) in relatively few folders where a lot of the filenames start with similar names. Not having 8.3 filenames available will prevent the use of old applications such as Word 2.0 and Excel 4.0
FSUTIL behavior query disable8dot3 1
If you have a lot of small files, you may need a larger Master File Table to avoid MFT fragmentation:
FSUTIL behavior set mftzone 2 will reserve 25 % of the volume for the MFT.
1 = 12.5 %(default), 3 = 37.5%, 4 = 50%
The last access time attribute of NTFS can really slow performance, if you disable it, the time set will simply be the Creation Time.
FSUTIL behavior set Sparse files provide a method of saving disk space for files that contain meaningful data as well as large sections of data composed of zeros. If an NTFS file is marked as sparse, then disk clusters are allocated only for the data explicitly specified by the application.
e.g. The Indexing Service, stores it's catalogs as sparse files.
With 8.3 filennames disabled you'll notice a performance improvement only with a large number of files (over 300,000) in relatively few folders where a lot of the filenames start with similar names. Not having 8.3 filenames available will prevent the use of old applications such as Word 2.0 and Excel 4.0
FSUTIL behavior query disable8dot3 1
If you have a lot of small files, you may need a larger Master File Table to avoid MFT fragmentation:
FSUTIL behavior set mftzone 2 will reserve 25 % of the volume for the MFT.
1 = 12.5 %(default), 3 = 37.5%, 4 = 50%
The last access time attribute of NTFS can really slow performance, if you disable it, the time set will simply be the Creation Time.
FSUTIL behavior set disablelastaccess 1
Particularly the last comment
Edit: this has been linked at the topic for this issue, which can be found here -
»forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?sh···ic=14995
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hpguru
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| said by StraitShoot :Why is Chkdsk now soooo dreadfully slow at stage 2 and it was fine before I installed the software? Why do you sit and watch it?? Why would you even watch it if there is no delay? I think intelligent people ought to be able to tear themselves away from the PC long enough for a freakin diagnostic to complete.
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| Re: Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift.. said by hpguru :said by StraitShoot :Why is Chkdsk now soooo dreadfully slow at stage 2 and it was fine before I installed the software? Why do you sit and watch it?? Why would you even watch it if there is no delay? I think intelligent people ought to be able to tear themselves away from the PC long enough for a freakin diagnostic to complete. The point is not just the delay itself, but what it might signify.
Suppose you bring home and install a new, very highly regarded home appliance. Somebody casually mentions to you that a few people have had problems with smoke and/or overheating, and some people have even said that theirs caught fire, but you choose to ignore this apparent rumor because the consumer reviews and the magazine articles were almost universally favorable and you really like the way this appliance works. Not long afterwards, you begin to smell smoke in your house. What's your reaction? Do you say "Hmmm, that's funny, I smell a little smoke. Oh well, whatever, it probably doesn't mean anything, I'll just open the window", or do you go in there and check it out?
The chkdsk delay is the smoke, in case you didn't quite follow my little analogy.
I consider chkdsk to be a rather important little program, since it is a built-in tool that is capable of both examining and repairing the NTFS filesystem. Sometimes this little utility can be incredibly useful, especially when the chips are down and you really need it to work. So, when chkdsk starts running strangely or even fails, I would think that you might want to sit up and take notice. | |
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| Re: Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift.. said by dantz :So, when chkdsk starts running strangely or even fails, I would think that you might want to sit up and take notice. I don't think it is running strangely, nor has it failed.
This is just an educated guess but on my system the brief delay occurs prior to chkdsk reporting the percentage complete for that stage. My guess is that it is just taking a little longer to enumerate all the structures before it begins examining them. If chkdisk were finding inconsistencies Winlogon would report them in the application log but what I find upon examination is perfectly consistent with what one could expect on a system without KAV6.
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jmorlan
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| said by dantz :I consider chkdsk to be a rather important little program, since it is a built-in tool that is capable of both examining and repairing the NTFS filesystem. Sometimes this little utility can be incredibly useful, especially when the chips are down and you really need it to work. So, when chkdsk starts running strangely or even fails, I would think that you might want to sit up and take notice. I agree. There are plenty of anti-virus programs out there, but only one CHKDSK. There was a time when there were a number of third party "disk doctor" applications available, but with NTFS, CHKDSK is the only game in town. Yes, there are others, but as far as I know, they are merely shells that run on top of CHKDSK. | |
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