swhx7
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Re: File stealing techs -
They weren't stealing, they were copying the files.
Edit: This does not diminish the impropriety. The employees should be fired and their conduct prevented in future. I'm just clarifying that theft is the wrong category here. As far as the reports indicate, the techs copied without deleting, so the owners were not deprived of the files. |
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Kiwi
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| said by swhx7  :They weren't stealing, they were copying the files. *Sigh* Once in a while, customers expect a service without getting shafted!
I have to think your post had the sarcasm button muted~! |
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mers2
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said by swhx7 :They weren't stealing, they were copying the files. Translation: stealing files.
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n1zuk
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| said by mers2 :said by swhx7 :They weren't stealing, they were copying the files. Translation: stealing files. No, no, you misunderstood. He was just performing a complimentary off-site backup for you... 
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EGeezer
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said by swhx7 :... As far as the reports indicate, the techs copied without deleting, so the owners were not deprived of the files. It's nice to know that If a hacker or tech copies file(s)or information on your system that result in them having your name, address, DOB, SSN, and/or a few account numbers and passwords it isn't depriving you of anything 
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mers2
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said by n1zuk :said by mers2 :said by swhx7 :They weren't stealing, they were copying the files. Translation: stealing files. No, no, you misunderstood. He was just performing a complimentary off-site backup for you... Only if he gives me any "off site" disks created. 
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Blackhood5
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Now now... Careful. If we call this stealing, instead of copying, it gives the **AA more strength.
/sarcasm
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pelouzer
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Woolwine, VA | reply to n1zuk
Lmao@offsite backup
I agree, self maintaining systems is way to go. |
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Desdinova
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"It's nice to know that If a hacker or tech copies file(s)or information on your system that result in them having your name, address, DOB, SSN, and/or a few account numbers and passwords it isn't depriving you of anything"
They're not; your data is still available for you to use. Now if they used that information and deprived me of the benefits accrued to my identity, then THAT'S stealing from me. Using the data is a completely different process from simply duplicating the data. |
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ydoucare
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Rensselaer, IN | Things like this make me thankful I can build and maintain my own systems. |
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Lowtarget
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| I would have to aggree with ydoucare. I learned how to work on computers very early. This was my first so called computer.
»www.old-computers.com/museum/com···236&st=1 |
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BandHeight
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said by Blackhood5 :Now now... Careful. If we call this stealing, instead of copying, it gives the **AA more strength. /sarcasm Yep.
Anyone who has to strictly limit / simplify the definition of "steal" in order to justify philosophical opposition to the RIAA (copyrights, generally) or allegiance to the idea of FOSS is either too mentally deficient to make rational, logical cases for these philosophies where they do exist or, alternatively, the philosophies are inherently fatally flawed. I suggest the former is the case. |
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brandon
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said by n1zuk :said by mers2 :said by swhx7 :They weren't stealing, they were copying the files. Translation: stealing files. No, no, you misunderstood. He was just performing a complimentary off-site backup for you... I know this is a joke, but if he went to court, this would probably be his defense. I mean, to be safe and all, if something were to go wrong while installing iTunes and the hard drive fails, consumerist (or a real consumer, anyway) would be happy that their valuable vacation photos had been saved.
Otherwise, it's "you didn't install itunes like I said, you broke my computer, and you lost all of my irreplaceable pictures!"
And of course, after he completed the installation, he was going to delete the files off his thumb drive. Of course. |
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EGeezer
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said by Desdinova :They're not; your data is still available for you to use. Now if they used that information and deprived me of the benefits accrued to my identity, then THAT'S stealing from me. Using the data is a completely different process from simply duplicating the data. said by Sundance Kid :
You just keep thinkin' Butch. That's what you're good at.
Now, getting back to topic and off the unrelated P2P kiddie pseudolegal rants, the reality is that many people don't have the skills or tools to repair PCs. Consequently, they by necessity need to have someone else do the work, just as an IT pro may still need someone to rebuild an automobile transmission, install a garage door or remove an appendix.
Customers are not only paying for technical competence, they are relying on IT servicers to be objective in their analysis and recommendations and ethical in their practices.
With this in mind, I believe there is a professional, even a fiduciary level of responsibility associated with those who analyze and repair, upgrade or reconfigure systems for customers. Those who violate the trust or who intentionally allow systemic practices should be accountable for their actions.
In the meantime, PC users need to be educated to be wary, even of "brand name" services to the point of doing homework they shouldn't need to do, since the user may be in effect letting the servicer glimpse into their most private affairs.
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Santa Clarita, CA | reply to Lowtarget
That was mine too. I even went so far as to buy a floppy drive, but I took it back because I didn't know what I was doing. Had mine talking (terrible voice). A lot of fun. |
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MarkAW
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said by swhx7 :They weren't stealing, they were copying the files. What's the difference if they where copying files off a system that a customer brought in without the customers permission then that's stealing.
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