mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA | 16mb / 2mb Status Update
So what is the time frame for this service in the socal area?
Heard that texas has trials now and its in some FiOS markets so what about the full scale roll out?
thanks
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yay_son
join:2005-04-16
Monterey Park, CA
1 edit | said by mbkowns  :So what is the time frame for this service in the socal area? Heard that texas has trials now and its in some FiOS markets so what about the full scale roll out? thanks never i hope .. are you actually getting what you are paying for there in riverside? |
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mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA | Yes I always get my speed  I never don't get the rate I pay for I hear all these stories guess I am in a good area...
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by mbkowns :So what is the time frame for this service in the socal area? Heard that texas has trials now and its in some FiOS markets so what about the full scale roll out? thanks 16 Meg will only be offred to those that actually live in areas where there is competition, like FiOS. The best at&t/bellsouth offers in my area is 6 Mbps and I can get 10 Mbps from Chater so I don't see Charter being in any hurry to offer 16 Mbps.
Also Chater started offering 3 Mbps in my area in mid 2003 and didn't start offering anything higher until early 2007 so going by that I don't expect to see any higher speeds offered in my area until mid 2010 at the earliest. |
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mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA | DSL2 is in my area so maybe they will offer it...
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daver007
join:2002-08-18
Albertville, MN
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I'm sure all higher speed rollouts will occur in similar areas whenever possible (e.g. Charter will try to compete with FIOS or DSL2 or whatever is there if it's higher speed and will target those markets first for upgrades when possible).
Just a common sense guess. Competition helps a lot in regard to hardware and what a service provider offers. |
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mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA | reply to mbkowns
Anyone here have this connection installed already?
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neofate
Caveat Depascor
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Birmingham, AL
| True Dave --
But,.. I wonder if 16/2 is a bit ahead of it's time/need at the moment.
I know FiOS is way ahead of its time. Don't get me wrong I'm CERTAINLY not opposed to higher speeds. Higher speeds will create more demand for more Media bandwidth, and so on.
But, I'm hinting at your average customer. Those who make up the bulk of the HSI market.
Is someone who is using 10Meg really thinking to themselves,.. Man this 1.25Meg/s download isn't cutting it for my internet use -- I need something faster?
I'm being totally serious.. I know people like us are like hell yes,.. But, the majority of the HSI market share isn't comprised of speed freaks I'm afraid.
Though phasing out the lower speeds will inevitably create the demand eventually.
Thoughts?
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kommander
join:2003-11-03
Yakima, WA
| i know that if the 16/2 speeds are being deployed that the next two modulation schemes are being worked out now. The faster the speed is pushed the more perfect the cable plant needs to be. He is what i know about getting stuff perfect, it is hard. the modulation scheme needed to keep the speed makes any ingress, egress a greater killer to internet access. These speeds will continue to increase, market by market. System by system. Every time that capacity is increased in the computer world, there is no shortage of new things that use the latest and greatest, no matter what it is, internet speed included. |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
 ·AT&T Southwest
2 edits | reply to neofate
* Multiple users per home,
* Start-up anti-virus updates,
* Start-up Auto OS updates,
* TiVO's attached to the internet
* You tube
* Emerging apps like packet8's standalone videophone
* Enhanced "second life" type games
* VPN home-corporate loading
-- all add to swamp even a 10mbs connection at peak usage. More and more of us are experiencing more and more of this loading. Bandwidth should never be "just enough" -- it should be always be more than we need by some large factor, like at least 2x. Right now, 10 mbs will just barely cut-it for a upper middle class family of 4.
I do get 17/2mbs from charter. I never notice any bandwidth limitations -- like I did at peak usage with 10mbs. 30/2mbs would allow for even more apps that I know we'll be growing into. I'm about to move into a FiOS area, so I guess I'll find out (still, Charter got it right with my 17mbs connection  )
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mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA | What areas are testing? Seemed like the 10mb testing was very short least the rumor side of it. I wonder when they might release it here in Riverside California.
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
·AT&T Southwest
| »/gmaps/fios
'Pretty much wherever Charter and FiOS overlap (go figure) |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by ronpin :» /gmaps/fios'Pretty much wherever Charter and FiOS overlap (go figure) Funny how that works when you have competition. |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
·AT&T Southwest
| Riverside is surrounded by FiOS. I assume your "blessed" with AT&T and not Verizon in Riverside (no FiOS competition) |
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BIGDOG_3
join:2002-09-27
Belleville, WI | reply to ronpin
No love for the plains... |
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neofate
Caveat Depascor
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Birmingham, AL
| said by BIGDOG_3 :No love for the plains... Or the southeast -- You'd Think the major cities.. IE: Atlanta and Birmingham would have some competition. But no such luck.
One day, one day =)
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BIGDOG_3
join:2002-09-27
Belleville, WI | Yea, one day. I won't be here when that "one day" comes. |
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HappyBunny
Hi. Cram It.
Premium
join:2001-06-23
Long Beach, CA | Verizon has installed FIOS here in Long Beach--I would settle for Charter just getting competitive with DSL pricing :-/ |
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mbkowns
Got Bandwidth?
join:2003-07-01
Riverside, CA | reply to mbkowns
Seems like we get updated here quick anyway. when the beta talks of 10mb were at full ramp i was able to get it in riverside.
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neofate
Caveat Depascor
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Birmingham, AL
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said by ronpin :* Multiple users per home, * Start-up anti-virus updates, * Start-up Auto OS updates, * TiVO's attached to the internet * You tube * Emerging apps like packet8's standalone videophone * Enhanced "second life" type games * VPN home-corporate loading -- all add to swamp even a 10mbs connection at peak usage. More and more of us are experiencing more and more of this loading. Bandwidth should never be "just enough" -- it should be always be more than we need by some large factor, like at least 2x. Right now, 10 mbs will just barely cut-it for a upper middle class family of 4. I do get 17/2mbs from charter. I never notice any bandwidth limitations -- like I did at peak usage with 10mbs. 30/2mbs would allow for even more apps that I know we'll be growing into. I'm about to move into a FiOS area, so I guess I'll find out (still, Charter got it right with my 17mbs connection ) Ok,.. I knew there existed people who actually utilized in a 'fair' manner Meg/s connections on a regular basis, in a residential pattern. But, you have to admit.. As things currently stand.. If you were to monitor bandwidth of all Broadband HSI subscribers across the US.. I would 'bet' the majority of the user base doesn't use anywhere near this amount.. (even if that consisted of 5-10+Mbps density pool.
I know it is easily possible to use it,.. but your common household isn't burning a Meg a second 'often'.
People who constantly run P2P software,.. will use any amount of bandwidth given to them.. from 3Mbps to 300Mbps. Harddrive space becomes the largest issue at that point.. but on a 'grand scale'.
Put it this way -- If the majority did use their connections at full tilt, we'd have network saturation in primetime at a much higher rate,.. in fact it would exist in every market and headend.
No Headend is setup to support every subscriber running at 100% bandwidth at one time.
Not sure what the 'average' ratio or capacity is -- But I would imagine they are equipped on the 'better side' to support about an 80-85% full load of ever subscriber running at full tilt,.. and in some regions as low as 25-35% (Where only a fraction of users causes saturation).
I'm not dogging Charter in any area.. Its the principle of shared bandwidth. An OC-96 only holds so much.
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