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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
Nice!

I say bring it on! This can only be good news for all of us in cities or urban environments.
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DrModem
Premium
join:2006-10-19
USA
yea. i just wish they would work on putting stuff out to people who dont have anything but dialup instead of just piling 10,000 options on people in urban areas.

TheTony

join:2006-11-02
Minneapolis, MN
10,000 options?


morbo
Complete Your Transaction

join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs:
9,997 of those are BPL variations.

The Way Out

join:2003-01-20
reply to DrModem
Providing service to people in the middle of nowhere is expensive. Consider moving.


Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online

reply to DrModem
said by DrModem See Profile :

yea. i just wish they would work on putting stuff out to people who dont have anything but dialup instead of just piling 10,000 options on people in urban areas.
Move if you don't like your options... It's a free country and Verizon is free to do as they please. They aren't the government, therefore you don't have a right to FIOS... It's a product they want to make MONEY off of.

-Tzale


RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast

reply to The Way Out
said by The Way Out See Profile :

Providing service to people in the middle of nowhere is expensive. Consider moving.
One day, we rural areas will cut off your water, power and food, and you will have only your fiber to eat MUHAHAHA


RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast

reply to Tzale
said by Tzale See Profile :

said by DrModem See Profile :

yea. i just wish they would work on putting stuff out to people who dont have anything but dialup instead of just piling 10,000 options on people in urban areas.
Move if you don't like your options... It's a free country and Verizon is free to do as they please. They aren't the government, therefore you don't have a right to FIOS... It's a product they want to make MONEY off of.

-Tzale
Geez, relax!!
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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Sweden
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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

said by Tzale See Profile :

said by DrModem See Profile :

yea. i just wish they would work on putting stuff out to people who dont have anything but dialup instead of just piling 10,000 options on people in urban areas.
Move if you don't like your options... It's a free country and Verizon is free to do as they please. They aren't the government, therefore you don't have a right to FIOS... It's a product they want to make MONEY off of.

-Tzale
Geez, relax!!
I am relaxed.... I'm just stating the same thing for the millionth time... People in rural areas think they have a right to FIOS, it will come to you when it is profitable. Otherwise, don't expect to see it anytime soon unless you put the money out yourself or you live near an affluent person who wants to spend millions rolling fiber out to your area.

-Tzale
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RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
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Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast


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I hate the us vs.them mentality, I really do. I hate it from the rural areas towards the cities, and I hate it from the cities toward the rural areas.

As one who lives in a very rural area, I have seen and experienced first hand the cities disdain for us. We get projects approved and funding set aside, only to have cities yank them away after some whining congressman in L.A or SF cries foul "how dare those hicks ask for anything, they should be happy with what they have!".

Also, as one who was born and raised in the L.A. area of SoCal, I have seen and experienced first hand the same thing from rural towards cities "let them get their own stupid water!...who would want to live in such awful, stinking places!", etc.

We are all entitled to things that better our lives, and "promote the general welfare", not just those who can afford it, or who happen to live near whatever it is everybody else wants-ie.food, water, etc.
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»www.amtrak.com
»www.modocrailroadacademy.com -Grad,Class of 2-07,woohoo!


DrModem
Premium
join:2006-10-19
USA
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·1and1
·PeoplePC


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reply to The Way Out
Ahem, moving is MORE expensive than running service out to nowhere probably.

"Just move if you don't like it" is the most idiotic and dumb suggestion I've ever heard.

I wish the rural and urban situations could be switched so I could see the urban people cry out like rural people do when they realize they have A satellite or B dialup.


53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone

join:2002-10-02
PwnZone

reply to Tzale
said by RR Conductor See Profile :

We are all entitled to things that better our lives, and "promote the general welfare", not just those who can afford it, or who happen to live near whatever it is everybody else wants-ie.food, water, etc.
this is broadbandreports, not foodreports or waterreports. urban areas have better broadband options then rural areas; therefore on this website cities pwn rural. It is our obligation to flame j00 for suggesting otherwise.

enjoy the lag, n00bs

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
reply to DrModem
You do realize that 80% of the population in this country live near the urban centers right? More people think Bush is doing a good job, than live in Rural USA. Consider you may never get service unless your community builds it yourself.


robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
Premium
join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS
reply to DrModem
My sister and brother in law have dsl at a location in a town that probably has 50-75 people. Keep on your local telco to deliver what they should!
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ninjatutle
Premium

join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
reply to RR Conductor
One day we in the city will use the internet to halt all orders of toilet paper from being delivered to the ruals. Good luck with your fresh leaves MUHAHAHA

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to RR Conductor
{Standard Response}
You do realize that 80% of the population in this country live near the urban centers right? More people think Bush is doing a good job, than live in Rural USA. Consider you may never get service unless your community builds it yourself.
{/Standard Response}


Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online

reply to RR Conductor
said by RR Conductor See Profile :

I hate the us vs.them mentality, I really do. I hate it from the rural areas towards the cities, and I hate it from the cities toward the rural areas.

As one who lives in a very rural area, I have seen and experienced first hand the cities disdain for us. We get projects approved and funding set aside, only to have cities yank them away after some whining congressman in L.A or SF cries foul "how dare those hicks ask for anything, they should be happy with what they have!".

Also, as one who was born and raised in the L.A. area of SoCal, I have seen and experienced first hand the same thing from rural towards cities "let them get their own stupid water!...who would want to live in such awful, stinking places!", etc.

We are all entitled to things that better our lives, and "promote the general welfare", not just those who can afford it, or who happen to live near whatever it is everybody else wants-ie.food, water, etc.
Listen, I have nothing against rural areas. The thing is that telephone service, phone service, water, electricity, etc are part of a standard of living. In 2007, broadband is NOT needed to have a high standard of living. People should not expect Verizon to spend millions of dollars to provide FIOS to 10 people in a square mile that will take thousands of years to regain the money lost on rollout there.

Urban/Suburban areas are much easier to profit from since you can provide service to thousands of people for the same amount of money that it would cost to rollout to a dozen people in the sticks. Verizon is a company, not a welfare state. They are expected to turn a profit for their investors at the end of the quarter.

-Tzale
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Blackened
Your Freedom Fries Are Stale

join:2003-09-29

reply to Ahrenl
said by Ahrenl See Profile :

Consider you may never get service unless your community builds it yourself.
Yep, exactly why I don't want a rural home. I find broadband and connectivity essential. If that's what you desire as well, move closer to the city. Simple as that. If you're a hermit or xenophobe, sucks to be you.


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

reply to Tzale
said by Tzale See Profile :

In 2007, broadband is NOT needed to have a high standard of living. People should not expect Verizon to spend millions of dollars to provide FIOS to 10 people in a square mile that will take thousands of years to regain the money lost on rollout there.
I am willing to accept that Verizon should be able to decide if they want to service an area so long as their decision to not service it PRECLUDES their spending 1 cent to prevent that area from creating their own Broadband Service. IOW: If you do not want to service it, you have NO RIGHT to fight someone who does (in court or the legislature). With the amount of Bribes and Court Costs to fight Muni Systems, the Telcos would have had money left over after just servicing the area in most cases.
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