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1 edit | reply to dbmaven
Re: (topic move) My review of MagicJack
Since this thread has wandered all over the place, and significantly deviated from its original subject/topic, it's closed.
If you're reading this and really want to post a "Review" of MagicJack, use this:
»User reviews - magicjack.com
and select the "Write your own review" link
Otherwise, start a new topic, please. |
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2 edits |  reply to swanboy
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The post that was here (and all 2 followups to it), has been removed. First - it was not part of a "review of MagicJack" Second, CSRs/Tech Chat are for support - not engaging in design discussions - they are not part of the design team.
There are any number of places to find the specific registry entries that can be removed for those inclined to do so. |
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DrStrange
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Re: My review of MagicJack
I have two more machine to clean up, so I'll try CCleaner and see if it gets everything. If it does, that would be a lot easier. |
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BlueMagic
join:2008-03-30 | reply to DrStrange
You really do not have to mess with your registry. Just use CCleaner »www.ccleaner.com/ |
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DrStrange
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I got rid of MJ on this machine [since I've decided to host it on the fileserver].
Hopefully, others who know a few things about manual, forcible software removal will read and critique this in case I missed something. I'll look for replies in the morning. I don't think these instructions are 'ready for prime time' yet. Consider them an 'alpha release'. This computer seems to have survived the process.
Here's what I thought I had to do to get rid of MJ:
{DO NOT TAMPER WITH THE WINDOWS REGISTRY UNLESS YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!}
remove ([windows drive]:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\mjusbsp\)
remove entry 'cdloader2' from msconfig startup
Delete:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\Talk4free]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg\cdloader]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\ControlSet001\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy\StandardProfile\AuthorizedApplications\(only the entry pertaining to magicjack.exe!)]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\ControlSet003\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy\StandardProfile\AuthorizedApplications\(only the entry pertaining to magicjack.exe!)]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2\-{88136d27-4c30-11dd-b963-00173120bab}]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2\{88136d28-4c30-11dd-b963-001731207bab}]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\DeviceClasses\{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}\##?#USBSTOR#Disk&Ven_YMAX&Prod_MagicJack&Rev_2.00#7&c36f4c8&0&A92103030064C1&0#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\DeviceClasses\{53f56308-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}\##?#USBSTOR#CdRom&Ven_YMAX&Prod_MagicJack&Rev_2.00#7&c36f4c8&0&A92103030064C1&1#{53f56308-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\DeviceClasses\{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}\##?#USBSTOR#CdRom&Ven_YMAX&Prod_MagicJack&Rev_2.00#7&c36f4c8&0&A92103030064C1&1#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}]
Use instructions re: permissions from forum post; delete:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USBSTOR\CdRom&Ven_YMAX&Prod_MagicJack&Rev_2.00]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_YMAX&Prod_MagicJack&Rev_2.00]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\USBSTOR\CdRom&Ven_YMAX&Prod_MagicJack&Rev_2.00]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_YMAX&Prod_MagicJack&Rev_2.00]
[Remove icon from desktop]
[I used brackets around the registry keys to compensate for the text wraparound in the forum. The keys are meant to be on single lines.] |
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DrStrange
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| reply to RockyBB
said by RockyBB  :There's a post on the baby MJ forum addressing how to remove the software. » Help remove magicJack from computer It would be interesting if both you and mozerd concurred that the recipe is safe and effective... Will do. I read the procedure, and there's more to it than that.
Deleting the vidxxxx keys doesn't work here, and they're not all associated with MagicJack. There are several other keys that should be removed. There's also a process in msconfig that should be removed. |
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RockyBB
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| reply to DrStrange
said by DrStrange :I make part of my living removing malware from computers. There's a post on the baby MJ forum addressing how to remove the software. »Help remove magicJack from computer It would be interesting if both you and mozerd concurred that the recipe is safe and effective... |
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DrStrange
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The only thing I see on those machines is the desktop link for MagicJack.
I think all they're doing is recording your calling patterns, not your browsing habits [at least that's what it says in the Service Agreement]. I don't see anything running when MagicJack isn't connected. I don't see any suspicious outbound traffic even when it is running. I run behind software and hardware firewalls, so I would probably notice it in the logs  .
I make part of my living removing malware from computers. I have a serious problem with malware, and I hate 'legitimate' adware almost as much. I don't like that MagicJack doesn't have a transparent uninstall process. If I get some free time in the near future [don't hold your breath], I'll see if I can log what's installed when you connect the MagicJack and think about how it could be properly and transparently uninstalled. What I've seen so far is in the NT user files ([windows drive]:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\mjusbsp\) along with the registry entries you'd expect from a USB device with firmware.
I had a look at the rest of the registry of the machine that's hosting MJ and I don't see anything ominous. |
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RockyBB
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said by DrStrange : Tested on 3 other XP SP3 machines Doesn't the act of "testing" load the MJ software on those test machines? Is there an easy way to uninstall the software from the machines that you were testing on? As the software is, in part, an advertising server that records user internet habits isn't there some jeopardy about spreading it around? |
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DrStrange
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West Hartford, CT | reply to Brucekd
Works fine here on XP SP3. Tested on 3 other XP SP3 machines, no problems. |
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mozerd
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said by Brucekd :
Caution - As per my text chat on Magicjack's website on 7-21-08, it is NOT compatible with XP SP3 or Vista SP2 and they have no idea when they will fix this MAJOR bug. BALONEY pure and simple. BTW, VIsta does not have SP2 -- your imagination is far ahead of your thought process. 
I have magicJack running under Vista/SP1 and under XP/SP3 without any issue directly connected to running magicJack under Vista/SP1 or XP/SP3. I also know of many others doing the same without issues that are specific to Vista/SP1 and or XP/SP3.
--
David Mozer
IT-Expert on Call
Information Technology for Home and Business |
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| reply to swanboy
Caution - As per my text chat on Magicjack's website on 7-21-08, it is NOT compatible with XP SP3 or Vista SP2 and they have no idea when they will fix this MAJOR bug. You'd think they would mention that prominently on their website before you order it and have to go thru the trouble to send it back. |
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| reply to cool_coda
said by cool_coda :I just received my MJ today, and have placed 8 phone calls with it. Of those 8, 1 failed with a bad connection. Connection was made with breakups though. I don't have caller id on my landline, and was pleasantly suprised to see it pass on caller id info to my handset. Wife really liked that. Voicemail sending to my email is pretty cool. Might have potential of getting annoying though. Call waiting does not work at all for me though. I see a 2nd person calling, but when I try to jump over and talk to that person, it skips and cracks. So we won't use that option, which isn't much of a big deal to us. FYI for those that wonder. We are on AT&T dsl, 6mb down, 768 up. So I thought that would be able to handle 2 simultaneous calls... but evidently not. My landline costs $20 a month. If this continues to work as wel as it has, we will be getting rid of that and dsl. Switching to faster speed cable modem. Interesting Info as I got the same internet service although my upload is 512kb.
What phone service you had that was $20? was it with AT&T? |
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twhd
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Re: My review of MagicJack
ive bought 2 and sent ne to england for my girl to call me it works beautiful as long as you dont have a highband with program running like utorrent , the other i have on a computer at my brothers house , and it seems to work fine, but he has told me that it took out the front usb ports of his computer and gave him a blue screen of death , but amazingly i had a call from him on it today so you decide, ive used it on this pc and it worked very well here , its well worth the money in my opinion and i recommend it to anybody it is the cheapest way to go , i have skype and magic jack works just as well just cant wait for them to add the overseas package as well. |
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clusterbuck
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have the people your call over seas buy one and you can then keep yours |
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dbmaven
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See the sticky thread at the top of the threads list in this forum.
»The one and only MJ Forum GrandCentral Invites Thread |
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JohnA
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We have an IM feature here, so you don't have to post personal info like that. It's between the folder and the star at the top of the left column. |
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Darnell Barber
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Hello Swanboy I read your review of the MagicJack and opted to try it for myself. However, I believe I to will need to take advantage of the GrandCentral Station option.
Unfortunately, Google now has it and it is invite only.
Would you mind inviting me? |
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