  CableTool Poorly Representing MYSELF. Premium join:2004-11-12 1 edit | reply to bicker Re: Pay to Pay?!?!?!
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join:2007-05-10 Burlington, MA | reply to actor90 I have no concern about that.
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1 edit | reply to bicker said by bicker :They are no more greedy than you are -- than any of us are. And they're required to operate the way they operate. I also don't hate or love Comcast. I only care about reality. I actually have a choice here. I can choose between three different subscription television providers, and my neighbors even have four choices. And Comcast is still the best option for us. Not because I like Comcast, but just because they happen to have the best offerings. That is a business decision, as it should be. FYI, it was communists that created the term capitalist. I am a democrat, and a republican. I know more then most exactly what communism stands for. I would suggest you be careful when throwing that innuendo around. Others might know just as much as I do, and question your intelligence. -- My Blog on blogspot.com |
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| reply to actor90 They are no more greedy than you are -- than any of us are. And they're required to operate the way they operate.
I also don't hate or love Comcast. I only care about reality. I actually have a choice here. I can choose between three different subscription television providers, and my neighbors even have four choices. And Comcast is still the best option for us. Not because I like Comcast, but just because they happen to have the best offerings. |
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| reply to bicker said by bicker :And indeed they're doing what they're supposed to be doing: Maximizing long-term shareholder value. Doing anything else would open their management up to shareholder lawsuits. If you don't want to live in a capitalist country, move. Barring that, don't rag on businesses doing what they're obligated by law to do. They are GREEDY. I AM NOT raging on it. It's a fact. You want to over pay, be my guest. However, when options are available in my area, I will consider them carefully. Comcast is a business, and I will make a business decesion when the time comes. I hold no illusions that comcast loves me. Keep drinking your kool-aid. I neither hate or love comcast. In the end I may stay with Comcast or move to Verizon. In the end it will be an informed business decision, not a cult like need to please Comcast, that will compel me to stay. -- My Blog on blogspot.com |
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| reply to actor90 And indeed they're doing what they're supposed to be doing: Maximizing long-term shareholder value. Doing anything else would open their management up to shareholder lawsuits.
If you don't want to live in a capitalist country, move. Barring that, don't rag on businesses doing what they're obligated by law to do. |
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| reply to NHTracker said by NHTracker :First off, yes, it is ridiculous that Comcast is doing this. Why should I pay a premium to see a human being in the flesh? Doing things online works well when it works, and when it doesn't the clueless folks in the call center are not much better. Sometimes it really helps to be able to explain things face to face with someone. Second, don't give me that crap about poor people being poor because of mismanagement. You my friend have obviously never been piss poor so you are having a difficult time relating. Do you know what it's like to be poor and have your car break down? Now your out of money and have nothing to eat, so you write a check for $10 worth of food and pray that it doesn't clear before pay day. Woops, you forgot that banks are able to almost instantaneously post checks nowadays! At least back in the day you could write one on Wednesday and feel confident that it wouldn't clear until Friday. Yet what blows my mind is your bank can turn around and put a 5 day hold on your PAYROLL check. So they can almost instantly post your $10 check for groceries, yet they can't with your paycheck? BullS&%*! So now your $40 in the hole for your $10 check when you include the ISF fee. These fees only continue to hurt the people who can afford it the least. Do you honestly think these fees would ever even apply to the people who are well off? Of course not, they actually have money to budget! Third, I am sorry but last time I checked Comcast, much like many other companies charging these fees nowadays, are not even remotely being hurt by the minimum wage salary of the people taking payments. The fact is these companies are charging them because they are GREEDY and simply just because they can. More and more big businesses like Comcast, BofA, etc., are sticking it to the poor people and senior citizens because they have absolutely no moral fabric. Anyone remember Enron? GEEZ! Enron, was fraud and embezzlement. Comcast is just greedy, and openly so. That isn't illegal. -- My Blog on blogspot.com |
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| reply to perfimage First off, yes, it is ridiculous that Comcast is doing this. Why should I pay a premium to see a human being in the flesh? Doing things online works well when it works, and when it doesn't the clueless folks in the call center are not much better. Sometimes it really helps to be able to explain things face to face with someone.
Second, don't give me that crap about poor people being poor because of mismanagement. You my friend have obviously never been piss poor so you are having a difficult time relating. Do you know what it's like to be poor and have your car break down? Now your out of money and have nothing to eat, so you write a check for $10 worth of food and pray that it doesn't clear before pay day. Woops, you forgot that banks are able to almost instantaneously post checks nowadays! At least back in the day you could write one on Wednesday and feel confident that it wouldn't clear until Friday. Yet what blows my mind is your bank can turn around and put a 5 day hold on your PAYROLL check. So they can almost instantly post your $10 check for groceries, yet they can't with your paycheck? BullS&%*! So now your $40 in the hole for your $10 check when you include the ISF fee. These fees only continue to hurt the people who can afford it the least. Do you honestly think these fees would ever even apply to the people who are well off? Of course not, they actually have money to budget!
Third, I am sorry but last time I checked Comcast, much like many other companies charging these fees nowadays, are not even remotely being hurt by the minimum wage salary of the people taking payments. The fact is these companies are charging them because they are GREEDY and simply just because they can. More and more big businesses like Comcast, BofA, etc., are sticking it to the poor people and senior citizens because they have absolutely no moral fabric. Anyone remember Enron? GEEZ! |
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  HappyBunny Hi. Cram It. Premium join:2001-06-23 Long Beach, CA | reply to perfimage You think that is bad, Chase Auto Finance charges me $15 to pay by phone and $10 to pay via the web! |
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  sansri88 Go digtal you analog laggards Premium join:2005-12-17 New York, NY clubs:  | reply to mikedz4 We sort of have a direct number, but you have to know what to choose in the menu: for us we have to go to the billing option and it goes to the local office. But yeah I'll go to my local office to find out about new channels and stuff. |
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| reply to fiberguy i go to my local center to ask questions, like when is such and such service coming out, do you have such and such box, when will I get such and such channel, etc. Occasionally I'll pay a bill there but very seldom, mainly to ask questions and swap boxes because they don't have a direct number. |
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| reply to TOPDAWG hahahah.... oh.. funny.
Ever heard of multi-tasking bud? Can't really do that standing in a line behind someone wanting to ask about why they owe some much money because they 1) can't read or won't read their bill 2) can't pay their bills on time (maybe people should think twice about buying something they can't afford) 3) refuse to put their credit card number into a phone system to make their payment.
Learn to be less extreme in your examples.. you may make some sense. Just because I have time to post doesn't mean I don't have time elsewhere. However, I, nor more people, would rather not spend a huge amount of time standing in ANY line to do necessary things while waiting for other people who ...
.. oh why bother. If you think everyone's lives would be better spent in line, why not go stand in one yourself and tells us all how wonderful it is. I would rather spend my free time "wasting it on line" or spending it with my family.. spending precious time with my dogs who only have about 12 years on this earth, or doing something that betters my own short time on this planet.
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| reply to fiberguy I'm a proud American thank you very much lived there for 25 years and had comcast. I lived here for 2 years now cause well I'm not saying why it's a story nobody cares about.
Also learn to wait life will be better if you do. You got time to waste on here you got time to waste at the comcast office. |
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1 edit | reply to TOPDAWG Not quite sure what you are saying.. but, since you are in Ontario, I'm guessing you don't have to deal with Comcast at all. Also, maybe life is a little different up there in Canada, but down here, we work hard. We don't have many things provided to us by big brother. We work 8 or 10 hour days which really turns out to be 10 and 12 hour days with lunch and traffic.. we have families and kids that play sports and other things we try to do with our time. The last thing any of us want to do is stand in line for 40 minutes to do anything when there is no reason to.
One thing I was able to gather form your post was the part about adding a line for payments only. Well, if they were to do that, I am CERTAIN you would see a payment processing fee as that only stands behind their reason for adding the fee.
If there is something that people haven't noticed is that not all service centers are adding this fee. Where it has been added, I'm sure, is where it has become a problem.
It's simple economics. The fee was added because it's exceeding the reasonable cost. When you purchase cable service, or phone, or what ever, it doesn't come with 24 hour use-all-you-want customer resources. If you are in the service centers all the time making payments and talking face to face, if you are on the telephone all the time for unreasonable needs (like asking how much you owe when they send you a bill) and other wasteful reasons, you can believe they are going to encourage you to avoid abusing the system.
Yes, you get to use customer service.. no, you don't get to over use and abuse it. For this, I also applaud Sprint for cutting off customers who have called, what was it?? several hundred times? Customer service is a finite resource. Those who hog the resources actually cost these companies money.. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." |
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2 edits | reply to fiberguy Wrong it won't be any faster all comcast will do is fire the extra window workers.
Also god learn to wait WTF is wrong with people everyone acts like they're all important and can't wait for anything. If you got a real issue with waiting then you should be mad at comcast for not making a window just for bill payments.
One reason it takes long is cause one rep does not know the system or is not sure about something and has to wait to ask the next rep next to them what to do. With my way the the bill payment rep can know the system inside and out and be faster.
Hell I've had to return a box and had to tell the person there mine was broken and I needed a new one. She said it's the same as the ones they already have I said well the ones you got are undated plus this one is not working and she did not know know where the things were at. I also had to wait while she called a guy from the back to make sure everything was in the box I had returned. |
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  sansri88 Go digtal you analog laggards Premium join:2005-12-17 New York, NY clubs:  | reply to fiberguy Hehe, our local payment center is empty most of the time. Like, I'll go there around 5pm if I need to exchange my box (happened more than once) and there's one person sitting there reading the paper and another person in the back room. |
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| reply to Chris 313 There is NOTHING worse than going into a customer service center to swap a box, because you don't want to wait a few days for a tech, and when you get in side, you have to wait behind a line of 10 people there to pay their bill. And, not just pay their bill, but argue about their bill too.
There are people that religiously pay their bill in person every month and they clog up customer centers all the time. There are also those that pay their bill in person from time-to-time as well. That $1.99 fee should be a no issue for them. But seriously... the majority of these call center transactions have become nothing but payment centers. It's a pain in the ass to walk in and have to wait because someone is there to pay their 3 month old bill and want a live person in their face explaining to them what they were already told on that paper bill.
I wouldn't mind a tiered fee.. First time, $1.99, second visit $3.99 and see that fee continue to rise $1.00 each time. Then, maybe people who need to do things like swap or pick up or drop off their equipment can actually do so in under 40 minutes. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." |
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 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20 | reply to CableTool no no.. there is that $15.00 Western Union Quick collect fee for making payments in person by cash.  |
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| reply to Chuckles No.. I know why... it's not only the lack of chairs, but also the lack of a local presence. Not to mention, THEIR cash payment option is Western Union Quick Collect.. and that cost about $15.00 to make a payment. I bet that's why everyone has satellite in his area.
Poor people, just like anyone else, has satellite as well. And you know what?? I've seen enough people making Quick Collect payments at $15.00 a piece too.. guess that $1.99 isn't so bad after all. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." |
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  TOPDAWG Premium join:2005-04-27 Midland, ON | reply to perfimage That is a retarded fee. I don't care WTF other options you got that is still a retarded fee no matter how you slice it. |
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