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bwclark

join:2004-07-05
Eureka, CA

pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

My mail server is pop.att.yahoo.com

I have been experiencing very sluggish mail downloads for a couple of weeks or more. Often cannot get anything to connect.

Is anyone else seeing this, or is there a better server to use?

Thanks
Bob
usflyer

join:2007-06-02
Napa, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Yes, it has been slow the past couple of days during the day here in Napa...they must be rebalancing the system...of course they dont feel the need to notify anyone...

ME2

@pacbell.net

Me too, that is in San Francisco. Extremely slow or I get "connection to the server failed or dropped" and "cannot find the server" messages. I seem to notice the slowness more often since their required "security enhancement" settings change in April.
Eeyore69

join:2005-02-26
Oceanside, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Email is totally out here in the San Diego area; "Your POP server has not responded in 60 seconds". It began a few hours ago.

Eeyore

Sandpipers

@pacbell.net
Same here also in San Francisco as of 8:30 pm.
MTU
Premium
join:2005-02-15
San Luis Obispo, CA
·AT&T Yahoo

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

ATT Internet has had problems in Calif. for over 24 hrs. Some websites will not load, including Yahoo (AT&T's email service). I can get access via Charter.

A call to AT&T today resulted in recording saying that users in the '805' area 'may have internet problems' unit 'noon'. Well, 9 hours later, still no Yahoo access (or DSL Reports - Using Charter to get online).

No word as to why? Perhaps it's related to data-mining overload in SFO.

d_l
Barsoom
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV
Various email problems are being reported in the Southwest and Midwest forums as well so it isn't confined to the SFO area.
cbiggers

join:2000-08-10
San Luis Obispo, CA
clubs:

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) Down 7/31/2007 10:24 PM

Post Date/Time 7/31/2007 10:24 PM
System Component Digital Subscriber Line (DSL)
Status Down
Detail Some customers in the 805 area code may be unable to browse the internet at this time. Our Network Engineering Team is aware of this issue and working to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Our estimated time of restoral is 12:30AM PT. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your patience
Start Date/Time 7/31/2007 10:23 PM
Estimated Repair Date/Time 8/01/2007 12:30 AM

»csc1.sbcis.sbc.com/systemstatus/···state=ca

mers2
Premium,MVM
join:2004-03-20
USA
clubs:

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Thanks for the status report. My email has been sporadic most of the evening.
--
Team Discovery
Eeyore69

join:2005-02-26
Oceanside, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

For what it is worth, I found this message in the SBC Email newsgroup:

Ken Abrams wrote:

> For the past 36 hours or so, connecting to and getting mail from the
> "new" mail server has been painfully slow.......like 30 sec. to
> connect, 30 sec. to validate and ~15 to 30 each to retrieve small
> mail messages.
>
> What gives?

Disabling SSL on both smtp.att.yahoo.com and pop.att.yahoo.com incoming
brings speeds back to normal, watch that your ports are also get
changed back to 25 for outgoing and 110 for incoming.

I'll try going back to SSL everyday until they are fixed.
--
Patrick in IL.

I changed to the non-SSL ports and can now get email.

Eeyore

mers2
Premium,MVM
join:2004-03-20
USA
clubs:

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Thanks. Also interesting as ATT made it sound like mail would be inaccessible without going through SSL.
--
Team Discovery
Eeyore69

join:2005-02-26
Oceanside, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

I just switched to ATT from another ISP a couple of weeks ago and I thought the same about using SSL. I have never used SSL before for email (I use it with my newsserver though) even during a previous stint using PacBell. As you said, they only give the information for using SSL which gives the impression that SSL is the only way email will work. I am now wondering why they want us to use SSL? Not that I am the suspicious type but ATT doesn't have a good reputation for customer support and service.

Eeyore

d_l
Barsoom
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

You need SSL email for security when you are traveling and accessing your email account across a networked owned by some other provider. This conversion to SSL email access goes hand-in-hand with the new free wifi access and their iPhone sales which can use wifi connections. Frankly, AT&T should have had SSL email access when they first offered wifi, but better late than never.

If you only access your email from your home DSL connection, then you really don't need the SSL protection.
bwclark

join:2004-07-05
Eureka, CA

Thanks!

Getting rid of SSL does improve the email!

Thanks to all who reported.
ELRefugee

join:2002-02-07
Scotts Valley, CA
·Comcast

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

said by d_l See Profile :

If you only access your email from your home DSL connection, then you really don't need the SSL protection.
How sure are you about this? I'd like to turn off SSL but don't want to run into nasty problems (i.e. not being able to receive or send email, and not being aware of it for days or weeks).

d_l
Barsoom
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

I don't have any inside knowledge about when or if Yahoo plans to discontinue the old 25/110 servers. They work now, but might not in the future.

Some people have just switched back to the old servers when these email problems started and the email works on the old servers, but there are also reports here at DSLR that indicate that the old servers are also having their share of access problems so this isn't something restricted to the new servers.
Eeyore69

join:2005-02-26
Oceanside, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

As I indicated earlier I couldn't even get onto the SSL server at all. So switching to the old (non-SSL) servers have at least gotten me on. I will wait to hear if/when the SSL server is back on line and also try the SSL settings every once in a while to see if they are up again. It would really be nice if ATT could let us know (not by email!) when the problem has been fixed. Tech support can't help. I once played with them for four days of no connection to the internet only to find that the whole area had been out; but tech support didn't know about it. And I don't know of any "status page" that would let me know about problems. The only one I found says that email is working normally. So it is up to the individual to fight his own battles.

Eeyore

d_l
Barsoom
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

I suspect that these problems are caused by Yahoo and not AT&T. Of course, AT&T is responsible because they chose Yahoo as a partner to manage the email service and apparently renewed the partnership this past spring.
Eeyore69

join:2005-02-26
Oceanside, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

For anyone that cares my SSL email is up again. And it seems like it is working more quickly than it did before it went down. Perhaps ATT/Yahoo has fixed the problem.

Eeyore

Sandpipers

@pacbell.net
Not mine (in SF). SSL still timing out, but the old settings seem to be working well for now.

m_m_b_j_w

@pacbell.net

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

The POP server is not responding at all with any of my email accounts.

I just spoke with AT&T. They say that the problem is due to "so many people signing up."

How rediculious. They are forcing all users to switch to their SSL servers. Why can't they accommodate it?

m_m_b_j_w

@pacbell.net

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

I was provided an escalation ticket. I just called about it, and the tech said that it was "sent up to Yahoo", but they could find absolutely nothing wrong and he ended up blaming me for the problem.

He acknowledged that numerous people have complained, but then said that a problem does not exist.

AT&T will no do anything else. So, does this mean that email will no longer work? Should I switch ISPs?

Brian Grif_n
Wireless Guru

join:2001-01-17
Reno, NV

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

said by m_m_b_j_w :

AT&T will no do anything else. So, does this mean that email will no longer work? Should I switch ISPs?
Nah, I wouldn't switch ISP's. But I do recommend having more than one e-mail provider. I have backups with GMail, Fusemail & Fastmail. If they all go down at the same time, we've got bigger things to worry about.
--
Check out my website: www.renowirelessinfo.com

m_m_b_j_w

@pacbell.net

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

said by Brian Grif_n See Profile :

Nah, I wouldn't switch ISP's. But I do recommend having more than one e-mail provider. I have backups with GMail, Fusemail & Fastmail. If they all go down at the same time, we've got bigger things to worry about.
This email outage wouldn't bother me if AT&T provided the email for free. But we all know it is anything but free.
Eeyore69

join:2005-02-26
Oceanside, CA
When I saw your message Sandpipers I tried my email again. And you're right, mine is down again so I switched back to the "old" settings. Email is working again. I guess I'll wait a week or two and try again.

Eeyore

d_l
Barsoom
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

There is an irony here. I have no problems connecting to the SSL server, but don't use that email account except for testing purposes.

My router logs show that I connect to this server address: pop1.sbc.mail.vip.sp1.yahoo.com - 216.252.120.29. I wonder if you were routed to a different server that wasn't working properly.
Eeyore69

join:2005-02-26
Oceanside, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

If I knew how to find which address I connect to I would check it out. I have a D_Link DI-624 router and when I go into the log all I see are lines (20 pages worth) with UDP/ICMP/TCP packets dropped at various addresses. I have no idea what I am looking at.

Sorry,

Eeyore

Barneysltd

join:2002-06-16
Glendale, CA
yup having same problems here in los angeles as everyone else....

Wily_One
Premium
join:2002-11-24
San Jose, CA


1 edit

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

This problem seems to come and go. I've noticed slowness/non-responsiveness of the POP3 server off and on for several days now. Just now it was fast as ever.

P.S. When it gets slow, increasing my 'Server Timeout' to 2 minutes helps to get my incoming mail instead of erroring out.

P.P.S. Plus there's always webmail.
dtravis77

join:2003-05-29
Modesto, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Here in Modesto, Calif. it comes and goes. Sometimes so SLOW it takes forever and one or the other account will time out. Then the next few times it's back to full speed, then again really slow or times out. Been doing this for around 2 weeks but worse the last few days.
baj475

join:2004-11-02
Chico, CA
·Future Nine Corpor..

Same here in Chico and it is getting frustrating. Called and complained and all the tech would/could say is that they do not show a problem and that they do not support Thunderbird. I told him to consult this forum and then he would know that it is either at&t's or Yahoo's servers. If at&t is unwilling to admit there is a problem, maybe it is time to switch to Sonic.net!!

David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs:
·DIRECTV
·magicjack.com
·AT&T Midwest


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Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Mail Pop-Ups AGAIN

let's start having the dsl numbers posted in direct please

Will need the following

1.) Address causing the problems, if multiples please list them
2.) DSL TN
3.) Mail client you are using
4.) copy of the error if you can get it.
5.)alternate contact number
6.) Include if the problem is happening with the web-based e-mail client as well.

For a topic header I had one created for the direct forum called [EMAIL-080107]

Start posting just that stuff there guys, and let's start tracking it down.

Thanks
david
Eeyore69

join:2005-02-26
Oceanside, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

I have seen the postings in Direct concerning the same problem that I am having; either slow or no connection. But I don't know what you are asking in your message.

1. What address are you asking for?
2. What is "DSL TN"?
3. Mail client I understand; OE right?
4. How can I get a copy of the error if it is slooow or times out?
5. What type of alternate contact number?

And I want to thank your for your help,

Eeyore
baj475

join:2004-11-02
Chico, CA
·Future Nine Corpor..

David,

Thanks for the reply. I probably did not make myself clear, so I will elaborate on the problem. I have 6 att/Yahoo email accounts. One is the primary account used by my modem as my User ID. I do not use this account for any other purpose. Two of the accounts are used for list servers and an additional account is used for craig's list. I use Thunderbird v1.5.0.12 as my email client and it is set to automatically download from the above 4 accounts. One of the remaining accounts is used as my ebay account and the last account is used as my general purpose email account. Thunderbird is set so that it does not automatically download from the last two accounts. I use Mail Washer Pro 5.3 as a spam filter and it is set to automatically monitor the account I use for ebay and the account I use as a general purpose account. It is set to check for new email every 60 minutes. I can also have Mail Washer check these two accounts at any time by clicking on the Check Mail button. I have Mail Washer set so that if sender's address is on my blacklist or on SpamCop or Spamhaus or the email satisfies one of my filters, the email is automatically deleted off of att/Yahoo's pop server. If the mail gets through and I then blacklist the sender, the email is marked for deletion and is deleted when I click on the button to cause Mail Washer to process the email. This means that Mail Washer must re-establish a connection with att/Yahoo's pop server. Recently, both Thunderbird and Mail Washer Pro have been timing out. Additionally, even if Thunderbird or Mail Washer do not time out they have been taking much longer to establish a connection. Once a connection is established it appears the mail download occurs at normal speed. The error message is that a connection has timed out or a connection could not be established. Although I did not make see a relationship earlier, the first indication of a problem was that after directing Mail Washer to delete the email that had been marked for deletion, Thunderbird would down load the same mail when I check these accounts. Although, I had not experienced this problem in the past, it is now clear that Mail Washer was having trouble connecting to att/Yahoo's pop server to delete the mail that had been marked for deletion. The pop server for all of my accounts is pop.att.yahoo.com @ port 995 and the smtp server is smtp.att.yahoo.com @ port 465. Both Thunderbird and Mail Washer Pro are set for SSL connections. The problem is intermittent but has been getting increasingly worse. If there is more specific information you need let me know.

Robert

Jim41

@pacbell.net

Seems to be an ongoing problem. Two of the three computers at the house use OE6 and work so-so (very slowly sometimes) with the new settings. The third machine uses Outlook 2002 and will receive with SSL setting after a long delay, but won't send with the SSL setting at all. Hope this is just 'growing pains' with ATT/Yahoo. From what I understand, after Sept. 1 the non-SSL settings won't work at all. Bummer!

Helpful tip

@telnor.net

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

if you have outlook 2002 or older you need to upgrade your software at microsoft.com, office updates, to SP3 to be compatible with SSL encryption that at&t is using, and about the time response errors, something that may work for the moment, is on need to increase the time for the communication, on the Advance tab from More Settings option on the setup account screen, that will resolve these issues

Jim41

@pacbell.net

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Many thanks to "Helpful Tip." Installing MS Office SP3 did fix the SSL sending problem, although ATT/Yahoo is still incredibly slow to connect and transfer, either with SSL ports or the old ones. Fix it, someone!
bwclark

join:2004-07-05
Eureka, CA

Well, this really appears to be a wide spread problem.

I also use MailWasher to screen incoming emails, and have all settings correctly adjusted re: latest ATT emails re security. The problem continues to be severely overloaded email servers for att/yahoo, and that is the fix that is needed.

Hello ATT?

Plac

@pacbell.net
its slow as hell pissing me off. its NOT outlook cuz i tried 3 email clients. I have to wait 1-2 mins for each time i pop.
dirtrat4

join:2001-10-08
Woodland, CA
Also have been having this problem in Sacramento area. I'm using OE6 and have posted in the direct forum. Its amazing its taking them this long to fix the problem!

eights

@sbcglobal.net

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Same here in Benicia. Taking up to 5 minutes to connect to email.

I made the mistake of calling Tech Support. I got a hold of "Oscar" probably in New Dehli. After explaing the problem at length to Oscar, Oscar advised me that it was probably my router and OE configuration. Ok Oscar how come it does the same thing on XP Dial Up and with Vista running Windows Mail.

He put me on hold for 20 minutes and transferred me to a woman that tried to sell me a maintenance contract for $99 / year. When I said no she hung up.

Ahhhhh the joy of customer service!

8s

ttravis

@sbcglobal.net

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Usually reasonably satisfied with what was Pacbell, then SBC, now AT&T. On home and office Windows XP machines, with both Outlook 3000 and Outlook Express, we get different error messages each time. Called AT&T customer support... After the usual "disconnect the router" and "remove and re-setup the email account" my problem is "escalated" to second-level support.

The support guy tells me that it's a problem with Yahoo, which provides email service to AT&T and that he has sent a trouble ticket to Yahoo. He says he's telling most people to change back to their settings that AT&T has been urging us to change from - In other words, change back to the non-ssl address.

Wily_One
Premium
join:2002-11-24
San Jose, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Well something is recently overloaded or broken then. I've been on the "new" SSL settings for a couple of months and it's been fine. I received the "Email security enhancements - action required" email back in mid-May, and made the changes by the end of May.

Only in the last week or so has POP3 response time gone to hell.
deangles

join:2006-06-11

1 edit
Can anyone who posted in AT&T Direct share any info he or she learned with us? Still slooooooooow in SF. Thanks.

William

@ameritech.net

For Outlook Express you need only one change.
select:
1. Tools
2. Accounts
3. your att yahoo account
4. Properties
5. Advanced tab
6. deselect(uncheck)"This server requires a secure connection (SSL)." The port should revert back to 110 automatically.
7. select Apply.

William

@ameritech.net
Sorry, I left out of the previous post that you should deselect SSL for Incomming Mail (POP3).
bwclark

join:2004-07-05
Eureka, CA
Ok,

It is better without the SSL, BUT it is not as good as it used to be a few weeks ago even with SSL!!

Something is seriously overloaded at Yahoo mail.

ATT/Yahoo HELLO??.....Can you hear me now??

graffixjones
Nuttier than Squirrel Turds

join:2006-03-28
Chico, CA

Re: Even w/o SSL.....

Has been slow here for a couple weeks now, too... another user from Chico.

Swapping the SSL settings no longer provides a 'fix', since I'm sure that those servers are getting pretty overloaded too, with all those switching back.

At least it's not my e-mail client, which is what I thought the problem was.
slomike1

join:2005-10-12
San Luis Obispo, CA

1 edit
I have been getting urgent emails from at&t saying you must change over to the new settings now, but based on these reports, I don't want to do it until things get fixed.

-Mike
ejcsanfran

join:2007-08-04
San Francisco, CA

I started having the problems with att.yahoo on Aug 1. I still have my old pacbell.net accounts. When ATT first advised of changes two months ago, I updated to the new SSL pop/smtp settings in Outlook 2003. No problems until Aug 1 - then no receiving email on my main or sub-accounts. ATT tech support first said my profiles corrupted; deleted; rebuilt multiple times; same problems.

Today, ATT acknowledged a problem - said it was specific to Outlook 2003 having problems with SSL. I pointed out that my Gmail settings work with SSL in Outlook and that my ATT settings worked fine for two months. ATT still blames MS Outlook.

My solution? I set up my Gmail account to send/receive from my ATT acct.
Log into Gmail.
Go to Settings.
Go to Accounts.
Choose Get mail from other accounts:
Enter your ATT email address and pop info; be sure to use correct SSL POP port 995.
Gmail will send a verification email.
Once done, set up Gmail to enable POP.
Then I set up Outlook to use my Gmail account and deleted the ATT acct.

I am now receiving my ATT email in Outlook via Gmail. I can still send from the ATT account, but I'm likely to completely migrate to Gmail. What's great is that I can still receive email at my old ATT/Pacbell email address for anyone who still has the old address.

Hope this helps some others...

ATTShanagagans

@pacbell.net

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

That's BALONEY. I've experienced the very same problems with ATTyahoo sbcglobal in Thunderbird.

It all started with the switch over to ATT from SBC, and now as you have noted has magnified to being ridiculous.

I've a sinking feeling that ATT will come up with a "fix" in form of a "preferred customer fee".

Could I be so wrong?

ejcsanfran

join:2007-08-04
San Francisco, CA

Well, a big caveat to this "solution" which made it unworkable for me. Gmail's spam filter cannot be disabled - so you still have to use the web-based email to review spam. I have a well-trained and accurate filter that I use via Outlook and I don't trust Gmail's filter to rely on it. Nor do I want to have to load/sync all my contacts with Gmail to ensure that they're on my Gmail whitelist. Back to the drawing board regrettably.

Even without the new SSL settings in ATT/Yahoo, I continue to experience slow or errored downloads. And ATT tech support are, as someone else pointed, out liars - and the one I had today was downright nasty.
ejcsanfran

join:2007-08-04
San Francisco, CA

Re: pop.att.yahoo.com Mail sloooooooow

Hi, me again. So, as I stated above, my Gmail solution wasn't workable, due to Gmail not allowing anything from their spam folder to be downloaded. Well, I found a workaround.

After setting up your ATT/Yahoo account to be picked up in Gmail, do the following:

Download and install FreePops.
In Outlook, set up a new email account using these settings:

Name: Gmail Spam (or whatever you want)
Email address: YourGmailAcctName@gmail.com?folder=spam
Incoming Server/POP: localhost
Outgoing Server/SMTP: localhost
User Name: YourGmailAcctName@gmail.com?folder=spam
Password: Your Gmail Password

More Settings: Outgoing server requires authetication
Advanced:
POP3 2000 (do not check SSL box)
SMTP 25 (do not check SSL box)

Save these settings. Now, Outlook should be able to download your Spam folder from Gmail and you can process your own Spam.

If this works, be sure to add FreePops to the StartUp folder in Windows, so that it is running when you try to open Outlook.

All very convoluted, but at least it avoids ATT/Yahoo servers and allows you to control/filter your own spam without having to log onto Gmail.

BTW, ATT & Yahoo suck a**. Good luck all.

anon1492

@sbcglobal.net

I wish that I had read this forum before spending hours on the phone with att. First it was my line, then no, it was my router, is my modem near any other electronics!!! Then I was transferred to their premium tech support (which I could barely hear the guy warn me that I would be charged...you see, they had just experience a power outage and all of their computers and phones were down and just coming back up!!!)

Yep, they were not interested to know that my ssl pop gmail access (which used identical settings as the att.yahoo) was working fine. My email was working fine with the ssl settings until a couple of weeks ago. My connection speed is consistently excellent. I am furious to realize that they were deliberately lying to - I guess - avoid comping some subscription time or telling people to go back to the old 110/25 settings. Man!

Joe_DS

@pacbell.net

This is a Looooooooooongshot, but for the past two hours I began receiving/sending emails via pop.att.yahoo.com (with the new "secure" settings in place) normally. This started happening right after I disabled the time synchronization feature! (Found by double-clicking the current time display, and clicking on the "Internet Time" tab.)

There may be no connection at all, but it would be interesting to see if this works for others.

Barneysltd

join:2002-06-16
Glendale, CA

1 edit
well as of 9pm pst email in the los angeles area seems to be working just fine...no problems..but i won't hold my breath !!!! lol
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