batterup
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What happened to state rights? |
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chemaupr
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Alexandria, VA | The state right to what... submit to whatever the market says you can get. Even if your local government will like to serve you in the absence of a willing provider.
The sate in this case is not looking in their citizens best interest. |
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Maxo
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said by batterup  :What happened to state rights? I agree. This is a decision that states should be allowed to make. The federal government has no place telling states how they can and cannot run themselves. |
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jester121
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Lake Zurich, IL | reply to batterup
It's a delicate balance between respecting the rights of the several states to govern themselves, and saving the citizens of those states from the greedy, corrupt, or inept state legislatures. |
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pnh102
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| said by jester121 :It's a delicate balance between respecting the rights of the several states to govern themselves, and saving the citizens of those states from the greedy, corrupt, or inept state legislatures. Then amend the US Constitution to allow for the Federal Government to exert such authority. If this becomes law it will be overturned.
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Jim Gurd
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| said by pnh102 :If this becomes law it will be overturned. Unfortunately it won't. The 10th Amendment hasn't been enforced since the 1930s. 
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Zaber
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said by Maxo :said by batterup :What happened to state rights? I agree. This is a decision that states should be allowed to make. The federal government has no place telling states how they can and cannot run themselves. But the state has the power to tell a City it cannot run itself?
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Maxo
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| said by Zaber :said by Maxo :said by batterup :What happened to state rights? I agree. This is a decision that states should be allowed to make. The federal government has no place telling states how they can and cannot run themselves. But the state has the power to tell a City it cannot run itself? That depends on the state's constitution. The federal constitution gives the feds limited power and puts all other powers on the state. The state then gets to decide what remaining powers are theirs, and what goes to the local level.
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Skippy25
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Hazelwood, MO | reply to pnh102
Why amend the Constitution when they can simply create a law and let that law be challenged? If it stands, then that is the way it is. If it falls, then time to try another angle if need be. |
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ieolus
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Duluth, GA | reply to Maxo
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John Galt
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said by Skippy25 :Why amend the Constitution when they can simply create a law and let that law be challenged? If it stands, then that is the way it is. If it falls, then time to try another angle if need be. To all posters and not just Skippy25 , the Federal Government already has exerted its authority over all things related to communications...even down to individual pieces of property. This is an example of that:
»www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
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tim_k
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said by batterup :What happened to state rights? Died when the civil war ended. Now a days, the Commerce Clause is used to provide almost unlimited federal power over the states.
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Jim Gurd
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| said by tim_k :Now a days, the Commerce Clause is used to provide almost unlimited federal power over the states. Sad but true.
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emptywig
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The US Constitution gives the feds powers over issues related to interstate commerce, a BROAD definition which in today's world would most certainly include the building of data networks, as it does telecommunications and transportation.
I have no problem with this law. My state is run by idiot blowhards.
Besides, in this day and age the idea that any of the states is somehow "independent" of all the others, that they somehow stand alone, is complete baloney.
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BF69
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said by batterup :What happened to state rights? what happened to the state doing what good for the PEOPLE not the corporations. As far as I'm converned as soon as a state start working for the corporation they lose their rights. government by the PEOPLE of the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE. |
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Maxo
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said by emptywig :The US Constitution gives the feds powers over issues related to interstate commerce, a BROAD definition which in today's world would most certainly include the building of data networks, as it does telecommunications and transportation. This is true. Interstate commerce act has been interpreted by the supreme court such that any and all activities fall under it's umbrella. If you eat with a fork in stead of a spork it is regulatable by the fed under interstate commerce because you have affected everyone in a very minute way because you have furthered the cause of spork lovers everywhere.
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TKJunkMail
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said by batterup :What happened to state rights? Yes, I agree. Unless it is wireless, how do the Feds come in and regulate relations between states and local communities?
Usually they do this by cutting off Fed $'s unless the state complies. Meaning the state loses some Federal money for broadband deployments unless they opt-in to the law.
Unless that is the way they plan on getting compliance, this law sounds unconstitutional.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to batterup
how could a law prevent wifi? just market it as for police and fire and accidently leave them open....
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Maxo
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said by BF69 :what happened to the state doing what good for the PEOPLE not the corporations. It is not constitutional for the federal government to interfere with the states outside of the powers granted to it by the constitution. The state is free to make dumb laws within the boundaries of its authorities as granted by the constitution. It doesn't make it moral or right, but it is the way the laws for this country are written.
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batterup
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said by TKJunkMail :said by batterup :What happened to state rights? Yes, I agree. Unless it is wireless, how do the Feds come in and regulate relations between states and local communities? Usually they do this by cutting off Fed $'s unless the state complies. Meaning the state loses some Federal money for broadband deployments unless they opt-in to the law. Unless that is the way they plan on getting compliance, this law sounds unconstitutional. The Feds wanted .08 as the blood alcohol limit. They did not pass a law but threatened to withhold highway funds if the states did not comply. |
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