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Re: "Volume is corrupt, run chkdsk" What's the command?!
One day, there will be an fsck.ntfs. NTFS development is very much alive but proceeding very, very slowly, due to lack of manpower (1 person does this, part-time) and extreme caution be the author (the last version of Linux NTFS ate filesystems). |
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jdong
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I think BartPE is also okay for that purpose. But it is a chicken-or-egg problem.
MS's recovery toolset is a bit limited in my opinion, too. From a sysadmin's standpoint, Microsoft has a superb set of tools for every administration task except recovery. It's a shame.
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Maxo
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There is a thing called Windows MXPE that is a bootable version of Windows XP. It has some problems, first of all it's illegal and second it's damn hard to find a copy. I do have a copy and it is as much a life saver in fixing Windows problems of this nature as a Linux live CD is for fixing Linux problems. It's too damn bad that Microsoft doesn't offer it so one can legally purchase it. |
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antiserious
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said by pulp39  :Could the bootable floppy be on CD, not the 3.5 diskette drive?
After a fashion, yes. Once again, THIS is the best option I'm aware of. I would suggest trying this while you still have the XP disk you borrowed, in case all the files needed aren't already copied to your hard drive.
You might get more replies if you posted this as a separate question in the MS forum.
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pulp39
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4 edits | reply to antiserious
said by antiserious :If he is using NTFS, and formats a bootable floppy from his XP install, Yes to NTFS.
Could the bootable floppy be on CD, not the 3.5 diskette drive? I have PC's with NO 3.5 drives, just CD/DVD. I thought 3.5's were ole skool!  |
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antiserious
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If he is using NTFS, and formats a bootable floppy from his XP install, then adds chkdsk, are you saying it will not work? I'm not in Windows now to check precise file names, I just copied from a guide I found. If they're incorrect I apologize.
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When you choose to make a floppy bootable in the format process, only the essential core DOS system files (io.sys, msdos.sys, command.com) are copied to the floppy. If he is using NTFS, then how is a DOS boot disk going to help? Or is that a DOS version around that groks NTFS? |
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pulp39
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4 edits | reply to antiserious
Thanks antiserious! I have some reading to do...
Hmmmmm.... type in chkdsk /R and save to floppy for future boot up use.... high weirdness but sweet indeed!
Yes, I used a secondary PC to dl Knoppix and changed the BIOS in my screwed up PC to boot via CD ROM. It was extreme coolness seeing a full OS and instant internet connectivity from a CD, Linux rocks! 
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antiserious
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Didn't intend to add to your confusion.
said by pulp39 :1. It was actually chkdsk /R that did the trick. chkdsk did nothing I could notice...
What program did you think ran when you executed 'chkdsk /R' ?
said by pulp39 :2. I don't get it, how do I put a command prompt onto a blank CD? Are you really talking about the 3.5 inch floppy drive? Haven't seen a floppy diskette in a decade. LOL
Yes, I was talking about an actual, bootable floppy.
"When you choose to make a floppy bootable in the format process, only the essential core DOS system files (io.sys, msdos.sys, command.com) are copied to the floppy. Because chkdsk is a separate, "external" program, you have to copy chkdsk.exe to the floppy after you format it."
I believe you can also make a boot cd with chkdsk, you may want to google some pages to learn more, or wait until someone else explains it better
said by pulp39 :3. "Dual booting", what do you mean? Because I went to boot from CD ROM with XP Home to fix my issue or because you think I have 2 hard drives? I only have one hard drive, I think, and Dell takes part of it for Dell stuff. Maybe it is 2 hard drives because of the Linux hda1 and hda2 showing up. HDA1 was the Dell part, less than a Gig I think, hda2 is 190 GIG.
When I said 'dual-booting' I thought you also had Linux installed somewhere. If your only exposure to Linux is the Knoppix disk, sorry for the confusion.
There's also:
»www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
»pcworld.about.com/magazine/2111p···2479.htm
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pulp39
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4 edits | reply to antiserious
said by antiserious :Since you don't have your own XP cd, you might want to put chkdsk on a floppy while your system is working, to be prepared if/when this happens again. You can copy it from your install, or from the cd if you still have it, or even download one. I bet it will come in handy again, long as you're dual-booting. I'm a doh_nut:
1. It was actually chkdsk /R that did the trick. chkdsk did nothing I could notice...
2. I don't get it, how do I put a command prompt onto a blank CD? Are you really talking about the 3.5 inch floppy drive? Haven't seen a floppy diskette in a decade. LOL
3. "Dual booting", what do you mean? Because I went to boot from CD ROM with XP Home to fix my issue or because you think I have 2 hard drives? I only have one hard drive, I think, and Dell takes part of it for Dell stuff. Maybe it is 2 hard drives because of the Linux hda1 and hda2 showing up. HDA1 was the Dell part, less than a Gig I think, hda2 is 190 GIG.
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antiserious
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Since you don't have your own XP cd, you might want to put chkdsk on a floppy while your system is working, to be prepared if/when this happens again. You can copy it from your install, or from the cd if you still have it, or even download one. I bet it will come in handy again, long as you're dual-booting.
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pulp39
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Just want to say that my issue has been resolved. Thank you jdong for possibly saving my data if I had gone through with the Linux work around....
I got a hold of a copy of XP Home, clicked on R and when it stopped doing it's thing it went to a command prompt. So I typed in chkdsk /r (because /F was not recognized even though instructions I found on the web stated to do a chkdsk /F) and it scanned my HD and fixed whatever it was... took about 2 hours. Everything's just the way it was! |
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jdong
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Yeah, it's really bad copy that they don't give you any kidn of recovery tools, apart from one that just totally wipes and restores the computer.
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pulp39
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Okay jdong, thanks! I will ask around for a copy of XP Home. That's what I really wanted to do but few people have them. Damn companies don't want to give them when you buy a PC. |
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jdong
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No, this will not work. You need a Windows CD's recovery console or another person's Windows machine to put the hard drive into and run chkdsk to fix.
Zeroing the log almost certainly won't help here. That's for when chkdsk sees a corrupted log and refuses to continue checking the disk. Currently it doesn't even look like Windows can even access chkdsk on the drive.
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pulp39
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said by jdong :ok, no no no, this is NOT how you fix a won't boot problem. If you would like to elaborate a bit on the issue, I might be able to help you out more. Are you getting error messages of some sort during boot? Blue Screen of Death:
"..... Run CHKDSK /F to check for hard drive corruption, and then restart your computer.
**STOP: 0x00000024(0x00190203,0x82FE51C8,0xC0000102,0x00000000)" |
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jdong
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Well, I do wish you luck, but I'm more than willing to be this won't solve 90% of bootup issues. If it works it's mere coincidence and you'll spend a day figuring out what ntfsfix deleted by clearing the log.
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pulp39
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On second thought.... this is driving me nutz. I'm going to give the Forum 10 minutes, then I will do a:
sudo ntfsfix /dev/hda2
Wish me luck!!!!
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jdong
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ok, no no no, this is NOT how you fix a won't boot problem. If you would like to elaborate a bit on the issue, I might be able to help you out more. Are you getting error messages of some sort during boot?
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pulp39
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Thanks jdong! Okay, I will wait for more replies before going ahead.... |
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