Dezbend
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
| more 10 Meg rumors Finally, after months and months of asking my sources, I got some actual numbers (I will not vouch for the accuracy yet - I am treating this as rumor still)
9/17 10Meg/896k offered in Las Vegas at $64.95 (-$10.00 with qualifying bundle)
Jan 2008 10 Meg offered in all areas same pricing
I do not know if this is a phased roll out with 10Meg service being introduced town by town or if Las Vegas is doing a trial a few months early.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23 | Re: more 10 Meg rumors $65? Ouch; I was hoping they'd make 10/1 $55, 5/768 $45, 3 meg $35, 1.5 meg $25 and 768k $15....doesn't look like that's going to happen.
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ | Re: more 10 Meg rumors Ditto on the ouch. That will hardly be competitive with Comcast in these parts. | |
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bctrainers
join:2004-08-03
Olathe, KS
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors said by TScheisskopf  :Ditto on the ouch. That will hardly be competitive with Comcast in these parts. Would be nice if they went ahead and put in vDSL or whatever that new technology is named... I'd get that faster than anything else!  | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| Re: more 10 Meg rumors said by bctrainers :said by TScheisskopf :Ditto on the ouch. That will hardly be competitive with Comcast in these parts. Would be nice if they went ahead and put in vDSL or whatever that new technology is named... I'd get that faster than anything else! I'll second that; I live under 5000 feet from a fiber fed RT, so the speeds I could get would be amazing....sadly, I think DSL Tech said that Embarq has no current plans to deploy VDSL at RT's; only the central office (of course, he said you probably wouldn't expect to see higher speeds from it either; they'd use most of the bandwidth for IPTV).
Either way, we can use port bonding with ADSL2+, so we could theoretically have speeds asymmetrical speeds that are on par with Verizon's FiOS. | |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| said by Fox McCloud :$65? Ouch; I was hoping they'd make 10/1 $55, 5/768 $45, 3 meg $35, 1.5 meg $25 and 768k $15....doesn't look like that's going to happen. I *think* it depends on your area and the competition. Where I am, Embarq pegs prices close to Comcast offerings (their main competitor): I pay $45 for the 3000 tier, and that's around $10 less than Comcast charges for naked HSI service, which I believe is 6000.
However, I know people that pay $35 for the 3000 tier in another area where there are more competitors. I don't know whether Comcast is one of them.
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DarnellP
join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV | Incredible. They are almost a year behind Cox cable here in offering 10 Meg and they don't even give a 1 meg upload to match Cox? Brilliant! | |
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@embarqhsd.net | So $10 more a month for double the speed? Nice. | |
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bctrainers
join:2004-08-03
Olathe, KS
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors said by jsmith99 :
So $10 more a month for double the speed? Nice.
That's not all that bad to be honest, just have to hope that the tubes of embarq to sprintlink will not become saturated from the new tier speeds... Seeing the past year of upgrades via SprintLink in my area has led me to think there is a change coming.  | |
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feek
join:2002-01-23
Philadelphia, PA
2 edits | I wish they'd factor in the cost of their essentially useless landline. That's another 15 dollars. So, for me right now, it's 15+54+10~fees = 80 dollars!
I just started service(so I don't have an actual bill yet), but I've had comcast in the past and it was only 64 dollars, and you got some basic cable channels, AND it's significantly faster. I think it's 8/1 right now plus that weird burst technology.
the only reason i have embarq is because a whole bunch of comcast channels come into my house for free. It really doesn't make sense to use Embarq, atleast not in my market. If they offered the 10/868 service for the same 54 dollar price, THEN it would be worth a look at.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
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1 edit | Re: more 10 Meg rumors said by feek :I wish they'd factor in the cost of their essentially useless landline. That's another 15 dollars. So, for me right now, it's 15+54+10~fees = 80 dollars! I just started service(so I don't have an actual bill yet), but I've had comcast in the past and it was only 64 dollars, and you got some basic cable channels, AND it's significantly faster. I think it's 8/1 right now plus that weird burst technology. the only reason i have embarq is because a whole bunch of comcast channels come into my house for free. It really doesn't make sense to use Embarq, atleast not in my market. If they offered the 10/868 service for the same 54 dollar price, THEN it would be worth a look at. how are you getting channels for free? When you got cable Internet, did they forget to put the filter in?
If Embarq launched a "go naked" campaign for their DSL, I'd be much pleased; more and more companies are starting to go this route; why not one of the highest rated DSL company around? | |
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feek
join:2002-01-23
Philadelphia, PA
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors They just come in to the house, I've never ordered cable service, and I don't plan to so I don't screw up a good thing...
I'm saying, though, if that wasn't the case it would make absolutely no sense to get Embarq DSL as their fastest package is about 20 percent slower and 20 percent more expensive than Comcast's.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23 | Re: more 10 Meg rumors lucky you; do you have a digital tuner? If so, you could try scanning for any possible HD channels. | |
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Dezbend
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
| One guy I talked to said they would be reevaluating the overall price structure when it is rolled out nationally. I don't know what that means, so I wont make any guesses.
I would like to point out that the information I posted is simply a rumor at this point. I found it more believable than things I have heard in the past as it is specific, but is subject to change yadda, yadda, yadda....
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| Re: more 10 Meg rumors said by Dezbend :One guy I talked to said they would be reevaluating the overall price structure when it is rolled out nationally. I don't know what that means, so I wont make any guesses. I would like to point out that the information I posted is simply a rumor at this point. I found it more believable than things I have heard in the past as it is specific, but is subject to change yadda, yadda, yadda.... yeah, I realize that it's still rumor; I was merely implying that if the rumor is true, that price is a little hefty.
if they do restructure it, I hope it means their lowest package (768k) will only cost $14.95 a month and their highest (10 meg) will cost $54.95 (-$10 if you bundle); still, I have my doubts about this, as people could get 768k for $4.95 a month. (though, if it were advertised, it might alleviate the bandwidth crunch, as there would probably be a LOT of users who would just want to get the cheapest thing possible, since they only use it on occasions). | |
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Premium
join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL
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| Re: more 10 Meg rumors Right now, my ISP is offering 12 megs for $56 dollars a month.
I don't know how embarq is surviving up here. DSL wise. Though Cox is now doing redirects, (you type in a bad url, it redirects you to their search page)
Fort Walton Beach, FL is about 3 years behind the times.
I couldn't even get 3 meg embarq service here.
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors said by robertfl :Right now, my ISP is offering 12 megs for $56 dollars a month. I don't know how embarq is surviving up here. DSL wise. Though Cox is now doing redirects, (you type in a bad url, it redirects you to their search page)Fort Walton Beach, FL is about 3 years behind the times. I couldn't even get 3 meg embarq service here. -Rob Simple way around that don't use the DNS that Cox provides. ex 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| Re: more 10 Meg rumors said by CapeFish :Today a tech came out to check on my modem's issues keeping the DSL & Internet lights on without intermittent resets. It turns out the modem was brought back from vacation service and provisioned incorrectly to 8MB instead of my 1.5MB.  Any comments? hahah, that's pretty good. While it's nice to enjoy the higher speeds, I'm sure, I'd call and have them reprovision the modem...why? 1)technically, operating at that higher sync rate is theft of service; you're only paying for 1.5 meg, yet you're getting 8 meg. 2) They may catch it, eventually and think you're the one who made the provisioning change; I haven't heard of a cable or DSL company, yet, that approved of this.
still though, I don't think I could resist downloading one large file, just to push the limits of 8 meg. | |
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couldbeworse
@embarqhsd.net
| Well, I am really wanting 10MB down, I get my 5mb/768 about 85 percent up the time. But face it, phone co's vary greatly. Here in Central MO, it's Embarq with it's 5mb down if your close enough. In the same area we have Century Tel which is offering 10mb down/768 up and I have one business site in the sticks thats on it and getting 10.5 down and 768 up, so wow. Other small telcos are offering 1.5mb down or maybe 2 down and 384 up and this is to people in the brush in the middle of nowhere. Then comes ATT/SBC who will not invest in rural DSL because it costs too much and the return is too slow so investors wouldn't be happy. If your one of those people and you live outside a major population center, then you are flat out of luck for anything except Wildblue. So yes we can want and bitch, be we are lucky !!! | |
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| random_guy
join:2004-07-08
Kissimmee, FL
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors Just wanted to put my own two cents in. About a month ago I did see a flyer/notification thingy that I get randomly in my inbox, and it mentioned something about 10M, which caught me off guard. Dez is correct that it'll start in Vegas, and it'll roll out to the other major Embarq markets once the kinks are worked out.
Of course, you'd have to have some nice line quality to begin with to even qualify, but that's a different story altogether. 
I'd love to post that flyer here, but I'm not sure that's legal, and even if so I don't think I'd want to put my job at risk for it. But I'm just another independent source that's confirming that 10M is coming soon. | |
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| 10meg is definitely coming. It has been around in developer markets for some time as FTTC service. in some areas actually embarq is only allowed to charge for the 768k when a customer has this service because there is no guarantee of the speed the customer is actually going to get, although the maximum data rate to the home (medr) is off the scale.
as far as 10meg adsl is concerned, that will follow pricing strategy much like embarq's other services, and will probably be deployed within the next month. the tiers will most likely go like this:
$19.95 for 768k
$24.95 for 1.5M
$34.95 for 3.0M
$44.95 for 5.0M
$54.95 for 10M
All prices are $10 higher if you do not have a qualifying voice package. There is also no longer a contract for HSI, regardless of the speed you choose.
If you have good credit through the public utility companies, or have maintained good payment history for 3 consecutive months with Embarq, your modem is free. Embarq offers a leased modem to new customers who may not have an established credit history for $4.95 per month for 18 months, at which point the modem is paid off.
For customers who qualify for the free modem, $100 is taken off the price of the 2wire gateway, making the cost of the wireless internet equipment $49.99. If you have a well established payment history with Embarq, this can be billed to the account and split into 3 installments. Otherwise it is paid for up-front.
Shipping and handling is 14.95 for 2nd day air UPS delivery of the equipment. The activation fee is $15. If you plan on ordering the service, do so at the beginning of the month. Each month, Embarq representatives are given 10 (and only 10) $30 coupons to help close "shoppers". This applies a -$30 credit to the bill and essentially waives activation and shipping costs.
And that's really all that there is to know about Embarq service at the present date. Look forward to 10meg adsl in the coming month. | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| Re: more 10 Meg rumors I really hope they rearrange their prices soon; I would hate for them to deploy a 15 or 20 meg package and it would cost you $64.95 (if you bundle, $74.95 if you don't). Embarq is long overdue for a price slash; why not have one when you release a new package?
Also...naked DSL...is a must. | |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors From talks I've had with some insiders, unless something remarkable changes that naked DSL has been trialed and won't be coming to Embarq since thier phone service is thier main cash cow it's not in thier best interest to go that route like you I wished they would. I have my cell and nation wide long distance as well as I bought a year long SkypeOut account for $15 back in January during thier promition and dropped Embarq's unlimited long distance, at the time it was $25/mo they offered to drop that to $15/mo but really $15/yr a no brainer. I might add that come January it will be $30/yr to renew still a no brainer, this combined with the cell unlimited night and weekends starting at 7pm saves me $300/yr on the old $25/mo and $180/yr on the $15/mo Embarq offered.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
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| Re: more 10 Meg rumors I'm in a similar boat:
I pay $30 a month for 500 minutes, unlimited data, web browsing, texting, free nights and weekends (starting at 7PM), and nationwide long distance included....I do most of my talking over IM, so 500 minutes is total overkill (plus, my family has the same carrier, so we talk for free).
So basically, I don't need a POTS line...heck, even when I had dial-up, that's the only reason why I had it; for dial-up...and since I had that connected nearly 24/7...it was sort of like paying $47 a month for dial-up ($32 for the phone and $15 for the dial-up account).
I really detest the idea of getting a POTS line again, and will ONLY do so if DSL becomes available at my home....even then, I'll probably get the cheapest package I can (charged, per call, per minute).....since I definitely won't be making any calls over it as the only reason I'll have it is to get DSL. | |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
4 edits | Re: more 10 Meg rumors
My Plan |
Also way back when I used dialup ('94-'96) I was online almost constantly, friends complained they couldn't get thru, didn't have a cell. I got ISDN, fell in love with the voice quality and having a syncronis line 64k/64k per channel 128k/128k when bonded, and if I needed to call or someone called me it would drop one channel and permit me to call out or an incoming caller, most of all it was stable while today speeds on DSL and Cable far surpass ISDN the voice quality, stability, configuability I miss greatly. My hopes that sometime in the future fiber mirrors what my ISDN line had to offer.
Scooper: I'll admit ignorance, whats DBS?
Edit: Had to edit the first image didn't realize it was showing my cell number, DOH! | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
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| Re: more 10 Meg rumors you could go with the Sprint SERO plan; it's cheaper, and you get unlimited texting and power vision (lite SERO edition) for free.
Also, if you nicely ask, and stay a customer long enough, you can usually get free nights and weekends starting at 6PM instead of 7PM...and you can also get free FIMF (first incoming minute is free). Heck, there's been a rumor floating around that Sprint may add free incoming calls to their SERO plan...though it remains a rumor, as of now. | |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
| If Naked DSL were to come about I'd go with a free incoming or atleast 1st minute incomeing plan for the cell even then would save $20 or so. But Embarq isn't gonna let loose of our wallets (aka POTS) any time soon.
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join:2000-07-11
Youngsville, NC
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors Well - if you use DBS - there is a good reason to keep your POTS line.
We do so little Long distance that we use pre-paid cards instead - it's cheaper. The Long Distance on my Embarq bill is the $0 monthly recurring charge, really expensive per minute plan. Heck - I use the cell phone so little that a couple years ago - we both switched to Virgin Mobile - $.18 per minute, $20 every 3 months to keep our number. And I don't always use that up.... | |
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scooper
join:2000-07-11
Youngsville, NC | Dish Network or DirectTV... | |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN | lol I have DirecTV but I never order pay per view so I don't have it connected to the phone line. | |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
2 edits | Called about SERO has to be on a new line they wont switch my exsisting account and I dont't want or need two lines oh well.
Also we've kinda gotten off topic my fault, sorry folks | |
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Gandalf4503
join:2002-06-27
Las Vegas, NV | Holy crap, finally some real speeds. Luckily, I live in vegas. So, we'll see if this comes to be or not. If it does, I'm getting it the day it comes out. | |
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Dezbend
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
| another small piece of info came my way about this. Static IP will not be available with the 10 meg product 
I am confident in the information I posted a few days ago.
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN | My MEDR won't permit me to get 10m service wouldn't get it anyhow without keeping my static IP. | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23 | one really has to wonder; why in the heck isn't their upload 1024k? Why did they choose 896k? I mean, sure, it's only 128k, but....picking a number such as 896k is really really odd. | |
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Dezbend
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
| The product will require a 660 series modem or one of the newer 2Wires.
I am not sure that current MEDR readings will be used to determine eligibility or if the tables will be updated when the new product is rolled out. Currently I believe 8000 and above indicates a fiber fed community.
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join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors said by Dezbend :I am not sure that current MEDR readings will be used to determine eligibility or if the tables will be updated when the new product is rolled out. It seems plausible that Embarq would probably reassess those tables. While there are quite a few newer subdivisions here presumably being fed by fiber, they'd be leaving a lot of revenue on the table by only serving those areas with this new product. | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| said by Dezbend :The product will require a 660 series modem or one of the newer 2Wires. I am not sure that current MEDR readings will be used to determine eligibility or if the tables will be updated when the new product is rolled out. Currently I believe 8000 and above indicates a fiber fed community. what does MEDR stand for and what is it, exactly?
Also, I take it that just because (hypothetically) I'm 50 feet (actual length) from the DSLAM to my home, I may not be able to get it? (I actually live about 4500 feet from the DSLAM...but like I said, hypothetical) | |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
| Re: more 10 Meg rumors MEDR - MEDR is actually a theoretical measure of the amount of data throughput a line can handle, but does not necessarily refer to the amount of data available to the customer at the end of said copper wiring.
Resource: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEDR
AIDR - AIDR, as opposed to MEDR is an actual measure of what an end-user can be provided measured in kilobytes per second—in other words, an AIDR of 3000 means that the end user in question can receive up to 3000 kilobytes per second of download speed.
Resource: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDR
The MEDR given the distance from the CO/RT is thier best guess at what the line could handle, the AIDR is what it will be able to provide. In your example if you were 50 ft away you'd have no trouble getting it, 4500 (best guess since I've never seen any stats on 10m) is that thiers a 30% chance you wouldn't be able to get the 10m service this is based upon my 5m service I'm just shy of 10,000 feet from the CO all copper how I came up with the 30% is I divided my distance and then cut that by a error margin of 15%, I think at 4500 you could get it but it would be marginal, reasoning for me with the 5m at 10,000 I don't loose sync but the attenuation and power levels are within the 10% borderline, a good breeze makes the readings fluctuate +/- 3db(for ever 3db of loss you cut the useable signal by half)
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23 | Re: more 10 Meg rumors my RT is fiber-fed (no DSLAM....YET), that I know...would that come into play any?
Also, around here, all the telephone lines are buried underground, with the exception of the line from the road to the back of my home. | |
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