LiberalKing
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1 edit | COMCRAP
WILL ALWAYS BE COMCRAP
and if cablevision fOllows this fraud ILL SUE THEM |
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Cheese
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| said by LiberalKing  :WILL ALWAYS BE COMCRAP and if cablevision fOllows this fraud ILL SUE THEM Fraud? Three letters, TOS  |
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LiberalKing
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1 edit | keep sticking for the big corps sheep. |
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Mactron
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said by LiberalKing :WILL ALWAYS BE COMCRAP ... Simple solution... don't use them.  
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TKJunkMail
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said by LiberalKing :WILL ALWAYS BE COMCRAP and if cablevision fOllows this fraud ILL SUE THEM Sue away. You will just be throwing your money down a rat hole. You have no chance of winning.
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Cheese
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said by LiberalKing :keep sticking for the big corps sheep. Since I don't use BT, doesn't really affect me. Also, sheep? Um |
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said by TKJunkMail :said by LiberalKing :WILL ALWAYS BE COMCRAP and if cablevision fOllows this fraud ILL SUE THEM Sue away. You will just be throwing your money down a rat hole. You have no chance of winning. Agreed. Stupid to sue over your lack of being able to download illegal stuff.
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Cheese
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1 edit | Re: COMCRAP
said by deleted post :
she believes bit-torrent = illegal
And if 90 percent of the content wasn't illegal, I don't think Comcast would be doing this, now would they? |
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Omega
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Re: COMCRAP
said by supergirl :said by TKJunkMail :said by LiberalKing :WILL ALWAYS BE COMCRAP and if cablevision fOllows this fraud ILL SUE THEM Sue away. You will just be throwing your money down a rat hole. You have no chance of winning. Agreed. Stupid to sue over your lack of being able to download illegal stuff. I play World of Warcraft. Created by a legitimate company (Blizzard), bought and paid for legally. The folks over at Blizzard have determined that the best way to distribute updates for the game is via a client that uses the same protocol as bittorrent.
So, if I was to have comcast, you are pretty much saying they have every right to block the needed data in order for me to play the game.
Just because it CAN be used for something illegal doesn't give them the right to block the protocol entirely. If that was the case then we wouldn't have Xerox machines, CD/DVD burners, VCR's, the list can go on and on.
Plus allowing companies to block stuff like this could set a dangerous precedent. What if Comcast suddenly decides that DSLR should be blocked because they have negative articles about the company? |
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Cheese
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| said by Omega :I play World of Warcraft. Created by a legitimate company (Blizzard), bought and paid for legally. The folks over at Blizzard have determined that the best way to distribute updates for the game is via a client that uses the same protocol as bittorrent. So, if I was to have comcast, you are pretty much saying they have every right to block the needed data in order for me to play the game. Just because it CAN be used for something illegal doesn't give them the right to block the protocol entirely. If that was the case then we wouldn't have Xerox machines, CD/DVD burners, VCR's, the list can go on and on. Plus allowing companies to block stuff like this could set a dangerous precedent. What if Comcast suddenly decides that DSLR should be blocked because they have negative articles about the company? They aren't "blocking" you from getting the file from what I am reading, once it's done and you start sending is when this is happening. |
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said by Omega :Plus allowing companies to block stuff like this could set a dangerous precedent. What if Comcast suddenly decides that DSLR should be blocked because they have negative articles about the company? [sarcasm]
Corporations can do whatever they want... You don't mean crap and you are subservient to the desires, wishes and profit motives of those companies and to believe otherwise is un-American. So bend over and take it like a good American.
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Okay, I don't believe that, but that is the basis of the arguments in favor of this type of activity by Comcast.
And quit giving upper management ideas...
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tshirt
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said by Omega :I play World of Warcraft. Created by a legitimate company (Blizzard), bought and paid for legally. The folks over at Blizzard have determined that the best way to distribute updates for the game is via a client that uses the same protocol as bittorrent. Best?
Or cheapest (for blizzard)? Rather than Blizzard have a large number of high capacity servers, and paying for high capacity connection at peak bandwidth rates, they seed a few hundred/thousand torrents a spread the cost and bandwidth demand to others.
even if comcast is blocking torrents specifically (so far un-PROVEN) I would doubt they know or care about the legality of the content, merely that it is interfering with the operation of their network. |
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Done_Posting
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The Sandvine product is meant to block seeding (uploading after finishing a downloaded torrent), but in reality they also are rate limiting the download side of things too. They may be using a bucket method of rate limiting, or they may simply limit the number of possible connections to something relatively low, like 50 or 100 concurrent connections per modem. That would in effect slow your torrent download because you're unable receive as many pieces of a torrent at a time.
World of Warcraft is an excellent example of a legitimate use of P2P technology. Blizzard doesn't want to have to pay for bandwidth, so instead of hosting their own files in massive data centers (as some might argue that they should), they rely on ISP's to carry bare the burden of their game file transfers. Definitely a win-win scenario for Blizzard, not so much for the ISP's.
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hottboiinnc
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You can sue and get what? a promotional price for service the company offers at most what 5 or 10% off maybe CableTV?
If they don't end up with your house because you spent all your money trying to sue them. |
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Rick
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Done_Posting
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said by tshirt :Best? Or cheapest (for blizzard)? Rather than Blizzard have a large number of high capacity servers, and paying for high capacity connection at peak bandwidth rates, they seed a few hundred/thousand torrents a spread the cost and bandwidth demand to others. even if comcast is blocking torrents specifically (so far un- PROVEN) I would doubt they know or care about the legality of the content, merely that it is interfering with the operation of their network. You beat me to it (see above) -- you hit the nail right on the head. Good post, especially the part about the ISP not caring about the legality of the files being transferred. Your ISP cannot be held liable for what you do with their service, as long as it's not hosted on their servers. Their only interest is in keeping the network unsaturated.
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Noah Vail
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Sure they would.
Separate Justification from Reason and you'll see why.
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