quatrix
Premium
join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | Solutions?
"Funchords continues to dissect Comcast's efforts, and has since come up with some solutions."
SOLUTIONS. Good one. Just like radar detectors are a "solution" to police trying to enforce the law. |
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ | You know, there ARE legitimate uses of BitTorrent. |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA | reply to quatrix
Yes, just like that. So? |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | reply to quatrix
Who said anything about impacting VPNs? Stop the FUD |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
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said by TScheisskopf  :You know, there ARE legitimate uses of BitTorrent. as far as comcast is concerned, so what.
comcast and others are throttling bittorrent for two reasons:
1. they can get away with it because bittorrent has been so vilified by the content industry, that anyone that supports using bittorrent MUST be a pirate - this doesn't cause a big stink in the main stream media because they are battling pirates, not violating network neutrality; they also get away with it because there is so little competition in the U.S., pissed off customers have no other ISPs to go to
2. bittorrent uses bandwidth and by throttling one of the primary applications using that bandwidth they reduce bandwidth demands on their system |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
1 edit | reply to telcolackey
said by telcolackey :Who said anything about impacting VPNs? Stop the FUD Did you even READ the summary at the top of the page. In case you missed it, I'll highlight the key part:
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The question now becomes whether this evolves into a game of cat and mouse now familiar to subscribers of Canadian cable operator Rogers, who took traffic shaping to an entirely new level by using deep packet inspection to strangle all VPN and encrypted traffic in order to thwart such workarounds.
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ | reply to nasadude
I suspect it has much more to do with oversold nodes than anything else.
"We're gonna give you 12Mbs down, but don't you DARE use it! You pay to HAVE the 12Mbs service, not actually download anything more than a webpage with it." |
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spotters
join:2006-05-05
Waterloo, ON
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I can still access all of my VPN's. The problem for me only seemed to be with SecureIX VPN services. I was never able to figure out if Rogers was causing the issue or if Secureix's vpn servers were down.
I have long given up on bit torrent now with Rogers. I have been hearing rumors that they have laxed their throttling nowadays tho. |
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magusat999
join:2005-07-08
Oakland, CA
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said by TScheisskopf :I suspect it has much more to do with oversold nodes than anything else. "We're gonna give you 12Mbs down, but don't you DARE use it! You pay to HAVE the 12Mbs service, not actually download anything more than a webpage with it." My sentiments exactly - I'm surprised some idiot didn't respond with "Show me in the TOS where it says 'Unlimited"..." - which is the usual stupid reply to the type of statement you are making. I could car less what's in a TOS - if I am paying for something, I want and expect to use every last bit of what I paid for. If Comcrap cannot provide my 8+mbps, and I have been using all of the bandwidth I am paying for, 24/7 for 500 years straight - I should not be penalized! It's Comcast that failed to be able to deliver (or just flat out lied about it) the service they sold to people, and it's COMCAST who should bite the bullet for it! |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
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said by quatrix :"Funchords continues to dissect Comcast's efforts, and has since come up with some solutions." SOLUTIONS. Good one. Just like radar detectors are a "solution" to police trying to enforce the law.
It's more like the police sending all red cars on twenty-kilometer detours on remote streets. while letting the rest go on their way.
And if you ask why, they say, "There are too many cars on the roads. We have to reduce the number on the main roads. And our statistics show that red cars are more often driven by criminals than other colors, so this is the best way to manage the roads."
Then when someone points out that lots of innocent people drive red cars, and workers are kept away from jobs, and parents from children, and that policies affecting all cars equally would be a fairer way to reduce traffic jams - such arguments are denounced as attempted excuses for criminals. |
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SimonGibson
join:2007-11-17
Crystal Lake, IL
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said by TScheisskopf :I suspect it has much more to do with oversold nodes than anything else. "We're gonna give you 12Mbs down, but don't you DARE use it! You pay to HAVE the 12Mbs service, not actually download anything more than a webpage with it." This happens in UK with British Telecom's DSL service - My elderly aunt couldn't understand why she kept loosing her connection - She was merely browsing and e-mail - Turns out the hardware just couldn't cope with the bandwidth demand in a small rural area - A few terse phone calls to BT explaining that the elderly lady had some very tech savvy family ready to turn it into an issue... |
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