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JRSlater8
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1 edit | Re: What ever became........ I believe real life issues have derailed this project. I believe that if a volunteer is willing to step forward to take over the project, I doubt there would be an objection.
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DreamWraith
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Mount Vernon, WA | i would be willing to step forward... providing there is still a willingness by the forum members to donate work... | |
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Catman
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| Re: What ever became........ said by DreamWraith  :i would be willing to step forward... providing there is still a willingness by the forum members to donate work... If I recall, all submissions had been taken. There was a decision to be made as to what was going to be included. | |
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Kringle
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Pierrefonds, QC | For us newbies here, what is this "Charity Photobook" of which you speak?  | |
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Kringle
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Pierrefonds, QC | Re: What ever became........ Thank you. Now it's all neatly in one place. | |
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JRSlater8
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| Re: What ever became........ There was also a small discussion about opening up submissions again, however at this point if there is still interest it may be best just to start all over from scratch. It's a fantastic idea and should be continued. (In my humble opinion. )
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DreamWraith
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| Re: What ever became........ that was my thinking... my memory is too weak to recall who was originally handling it, and i wonder if we would even be able to get everything that was being worked on... etc.
realistically though, it would probably be best to start over, etc. | |
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pog
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| Re: What ever became........ said by DreamWraith :... realistically though, it would probably be best to start over, etc. A poll for this might the best. However, a poll gauging overall interest in the project, regardless of how it works, is probably a more important first step.
Personally, I would probably submit something new but it would be only to jump on an already-crowded bandwagon.
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DreamWraith
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Mount Vernon, WA | Re: What ever became........ i suppose, yes. | |
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Catman
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Jason Levine
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| I was just talking with my wife about this yesterday. After awhile of real life distractions, I wanted to kick-start it up again, but it's becoming painfully obvious that I just won't have time to do it. Besides, I think we've reached a point that goes beyond my expertise. I'm still willing to lend a helping hand on the project, but I think we need a new project leader to take the submitted photos and move it past the goal line. Any volunteers? | |
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SandShark
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1 edit | Re: What ever became........ said by Jason Levine :I was just talking with my wife about this yesterday. After awhile of real life distractions, I wanted to kick-start it up again, but it's becoming painfully obvious that I just won't have time to do it. Besides, I think we've reached a point that goes beyond my expertise. I'm still willing to lend a helping hand on the project, but I think we need a new project leader to take the submitted photos and move it past the goal line. Any volunteers? I guess the questions I would ask are:
1) Would the images that have already been submitted and selected still be used?
2) This might be taking a step back, but does anyone think it would be a good idea to allow some new submissions? I ask only because it's been some time since the selections were made and there might be some new members who would like to have a chance to participate.
3) The last update we had from Jason Levine , he indicated that the book was at the layout stage and that he didn't feel qualified or experienced enough to do a photobook layout. From this post »Re: Photobook for a cause ErthBndAngel seemed to be the most qualified with publishing and doing layouts. Does the offer still stand?
4) It may have been addressed, but has the monetary obligation been brought up? Has a determination been reached as to what the final costs will be, how the books will be paid for, what each copy will cost, etc. Or, will it be a take orders/money first type deal before ordering printed copies?
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Jason Levine
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| Re: What ever became........ 1. I would guess that the images that were submitted could still be used, though we could give people the choice to opt their images back out if they changed their mind.
2. It might be a good idea to reopen the book to new submissions. At the very least, it would drum up some renewed forum interest in the project. At the most, we would wind up with photos from newer forum members.
3. Though this could change depending on #2, the book right now is at the layout stage. We need to figure out which photos go where, at which sizes, and how attribution is done.
4. I believe we discussed prices in general. A lot will depend on how the book gets made. I looked around and LuLu.com seemed to be the best choice. No commitment has been made, though, so that could change if need be. I also hadn't figured out how best to handle the money transfer from the LuLu (or where ever) payments to the charity. (Income taxes on the sales might complicate matters.) | |
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Kringle
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| Re: What ever became........ said by Jason Levine :(Income taxes on the sales might will complicate matters.) There, I corrected it for you. | |
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| Re: What ever became........ said by Kringle :said by Jason Levine :(Income taxes on the sales might will complicate matters.) There, I corrected it for you. most of us aren't in Canada; we don't have 50% income tax. | |
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DreamWraith
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| as far as the layout is concerned, i wouldn't go so far as to say I am an expert, but i have done a bit of page layout in my days, and have a pretty good handle on what is needed.
I agree with jason about it being a good idea to at the very least, open submissions back up, and allow people to opt in who havent had the chance before, and maybe even submit a few more, etc. | |
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ErthBndAngel
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1 edit | I'm still willing to help with the project and I think that the idea of starting with something smaller is also a good idea. I believe Jason has all the submissions at this point, but I also think it would be a good idea to start from fresh. With this new idea of a calendar it may change the type of images people choose to submit and will allow people to submit new images. I've designed a few calendars mainly for friends , family and a couple of local business using a combination of publisher for the dates portion and PS for the images portion. Just me offering up both my 2 cents and what time and skill I have.
Ok I've checked out a couple of the websites Jason mentioned and I'm just trying to figure out what the heck we're waiting for. A calendar and other products from any of these sites should be a piece of cake (and I'm talking tasty cake made by someone else...who brought milk). The book idea is HUGE and perhaps what we need is a year or three doing something like this successfully and then we can get some sponsorship with something larger like a book. The only thing this requires is getting the word out that the calendar is available. The sooner we get it done and get people talking about it the better, people are buying calendars now. I know I'm selling them to them.
Anyone know if we need permission from the Make A Wish foundation to use their name on and in relation to the project? If not I'm willing to start making calls and typing e-mails. Who knows what kind of help they and or their staff might be willing to offer if they knew about it.
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Wayne GphFX
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| Personally I feel has the creator of the idea who was quickly removed. Yeah I felt a little hurt by that and our project didn't make it. Well yeah it was possibly my fault plus bad timing and plenty of drama at the time which led to some pretty silly actions. So I would like to take the time to apologize to our entire DI forum.
Thanks,
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major marco
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clubs: | So the charities are all children oriented? Get some animal and/or adult charities on that list and I'll participate. | |
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SandShark
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clubs: | Re: What ever became........ Oh? So, the charity that was voted for does not meet your criteria? Hmm, what a shame.
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| said by major marco :So the charities are all children oriented? Get some animal and/or adult charities on that list and I'll participate. Wow. | |
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Wayne GphFX
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RowanDu
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| I thought we were all past the argueing.
Lets not start this again. everythings already been decided. all thats up to you now is to decide wether or not you wanna be a helping hand in it or not.
As for the book. like ive always said Id be more than willing to help in whatever way i could, my skills in photography and photoshop are both subpar, if you need anything else though IM here for you man.
Just dont give up yet. It can be done (although it may take a lot of time) as long as you keep going. | |
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Jason Levine
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| Re: What ever became........ I agree. Let's keep the previously chosen charity and just move forward from there. The first thing to do would be to find someone who could push the project forward. This would involve collecting more photos (if needed), getting them arranged as a photobook, dealing with the sales of the photobook, and properly donating the proceeds. | |
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Jason Levine
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1 edit | Re: What ever became........ I think that might be a very good idea. A photobook might be shooting a bit too high. Start with a calendar (maybe some mugs, shirts, or other items with the chosen photos), sell them via CafePress/Zazzle/whereever, and donate the funds. Then, if this project is a success, revisit the photobook project.
Pros: Less setup time/experience required. I think I could design a 18 month calendar given 18 photos.
Cons: Less money for the charity. (Then again, it's more than if the photobook project crashes and burns completely.) Less photographers featured (though we could make this a repeating project).
In fact, I think we should make this a poll to better gather opinions. I'll prep a poll now.
EDIT: Poll posted: »Future Of The Shooting For A Cause Project? | |
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rcroning
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| WOW!!! I did not think my simple question would start the fire burning again. Maybe I should have broached the subject a long time ago.
Adding in my 2 cents I think we should:
-Open up for a few more submissions
-Stick to the charity originally chosen
I don't think taxes are a concern here as the proceeds will be going to a tax exempt organization.
I don't have much skills in layout or PS but I could help with proofreading. Other than that I have made a submission and would be happy to add a couple more if allowed.
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Jason Levine
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| Re: What ever became........ Well, the taxes could be a problem. Let's say we use CafePress to make the calendars. CafePress would take their cut of the sales and send the remainder as a check to someone we designate (say me for now). I would deposit the check and send a payment for the same amount to Make-A-Wish Foundation.
The IRS, however, would see the CafePress payment as income and would require me to pay taxes on it. So the trick becomes how to tell the IRS that the "income" wasn't really income at all, but a charitable donation that I (or whomever we choose) was just routing from CafePress to the charity.
I'm thinking that Make-A-Wish might have some ideas about this. I could also talk with my uncle. He's a tax accountant (and does my taxes) so he might know how to approach this. | |
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Kringle
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| Re: What ever became........ said by Jason Levine :I could also talk with my uncle. He's a tax accountant (and does my taxes) so he might know how to approach this. That's the only way to be sure. I mentioned this some time before but was told that it was sort of "different in the US". I'm glad you're taking the intelligent approach to this issue. | |
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ErthBndAngel
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| When I sent the e-mail to MAW I mentioned the transfer of $$ to them as one of our major questions. When I actually speak with the woman at MAW perhaps we can simply have MAW create the paypal account that the funds are deposited in?
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rcroning
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Winnipeg, MB | Talking to as many professionals as well as MAW will help us in this matter. The rest of us can only speculate. | |
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