Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Re: A wire is a wire is a wire
60 Hz Noise - The AC coupling is actually revealed! |
Hi Angelo168,
My numbers ain't as accurate over a few hours than
they can be over a week so i better hold judgement
based on them until enough records collect but the
graphic shown above should speak for itself! This
looks like some threefold improvement to me and it
also suggests i only need to shield Bell's main as
it turns out there was only a single phone instead
of the whole wiring when the 18 h peak occured: i
put back the original circuit for the 19 h peak so
that's a strong indication that the stacked double
filter setup does work at 60 Hz, after all... The
single phone provided some loading and i put it at
a good distance from the electrical panel in order
to control noise pickup; there should have been a
difference in the peak's amplitudes if the filters
couldn't keep the 60 Hz noise away compared to the
reference load. Great, i was quite concerned that
having Bell's main besides of the home wiring in a
close shielded space might actually couple them to
a point that noise from the house wiring would end
up being injected on the main line anyway - i just
hope the impedance won't be affected too much once
i'm done inserting the wires into the 1" sq. steel
tube i've found! Well, at least there's no splice
to deal with and the shielding tube just needs the
length to be cut then i must get screw-pads added.
Piece of cake!
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TakeTheFifth
join:2004-04-20
Anjou, QC
1 edit | I would be more concerned about interference riding the power lines than the 60Hz signal itself: hi-frequency junk (from electric motors, arc welders, amateur radio, etc). If have seldom seen nice and clean sine wave house power; If you live near any kind of garage, industry, machine shop (or are on the same power grid), and you suspect your problems are related to power line interference, they would be the culprit. At any rate, keeping phone lines away from power lines is a good idea (and if you can avoid having them run parallel, even better).
Some other sources of RFI: »cable-dsl.home.att.net/#RFI
Phil |
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Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | Hi Phil,
I'd like to use a more descriptive expression than
just the term "60 Hz noise", which is quite vague,
but my GNet only provides a simple diagnostic tool
through 'DMT' and my SpeedTouch even less. In any
case, i did suspect there was a wider problem this
winter and i still do so the next step would be to
put the MoDem on battery since that's all i can do
about such external nuisance; when it comes to AM
radio stations and storms i'm short of imagination
but it wouldn't matter with these numbers, though:
Source: GNet BB0060B
Date: 2007-Sep-8
Time: 11:27:52
Bits-per-Bin: 13
UpStream Bins: 6 to 31 inclusively
DownStream Bins: 33 to 254 (idem)
Tx Power Attm.: -1 dB
Coding Gain: 7 dB
Up Time: 12:12:37 (43957 sec)
Local CRC: 142/day (72/43957 sec)
Remote CRC: 16/day (8/43957 sec)
Local HEC: 90/day (46/43957 sec)
Remote HEC: 4/day (2/43957 sec)
Local Tx Power: 10.95 dB
Remote Tx Power: 19.40 dB
Local Line Atten.: 31.5 dB
Remote Line Atten.: 29.0 dB
Local SNR Margin: 18.5 dB
Remote SNR Margin: 8.0 dB
Even a twelve hours record has little meaning here
and i don't believe this is the end of peak rushes
but that's nowhere near a thousand errors per day,
(around four thousand until recently to be exact)!
As i wrote, the wires got to go back into the wall
so there's no other way to manage with the limited
space than by shielding Bell's main while the rest
of the phone lines are moved by a few inches only.
Thanks for your link, i already feel apprehensive!
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