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dcdeadbeat

@covad.net

sonicwall tz190 is still the way to go

It features failover, spillover, and load-balancing. And it's very easy to use. That software you mention is just crapware. Go with a company like SonicWall, set it and forget it.

I have used this product in dozens of clients. if they need more power and flexibility, then I take them up to Cisco grade equipment. I don't care what anyone says about software and a rigged together system. Hardware works 24/7. Software...well ...it works when it works. And when it doesn't...then you should have cracked open the wallet. He did say he was using it for work. So get your work to pay for it.

Lazy beats free any day of the week!!!!!!

cmaenginsb1
Premium
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
Actually both the Sonicwall and Cisco's you mention are just modified versions of Linux software.

Sonicwall is a joke, used to recommend them to customers but after being screwed too many times it find it better to use something like PFSense. For l0sers like you who have to have Sonicwall, just modify the web interface so it looks like one and pocket the extra $400 or so it costs.
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CCNA, Comtrain Certified Tower Climber


sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
reply to dcdeadbeat
said by dcdeadbeat :

It features failover, spillover, and load-balancing. And it's very easy to use. That software you mention is just crapware. Go with a company like SonicWall, set it and forget it.
It takes a whole lotta stupid to be that mad at something that's free and offers more features.
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Dogma is the problem.

quantumvoice

join:2006-11-17
Ann Arbor, MI
reply to cmaenginsb1
Actually, if he is referring to Cisco PIX, it is not "linux" based. You may be confused with Cisco's consumer/SOHO grade products from Linksys or it is a recent development.

However, the general point you were trying to make regarding PFSense is valid--both PIX and Sonicwall are software-based.

The functionality is derived from a general purpose CPU and not specialized hardware that provides application-specific functionality which is provided by an ASIC, DSP, etc.

However, even supposedly "hardware" solutions require robust firmware ("software") to exploit their potential.


dcdeadbeat

@verizon.net
reply to sporkme
Quote: It takes a whole lotta stupid to be that mad at something that's free and offers more features.

Stupid, wait...let me check my bank account that stupidity has brought me....7 figures and growing....so I guess not recommending free crapware has made me very rich.

And don't think just because it is linux that it is stable or hack-proof.

And Cisco only uses linux on its VOIP and consumer products. IOS (found on its enterprise firewall and router products) is a hardened operating system and the backbone of the Internet core routers.

But then I am just a wealthy stupid, madman with 20+ years in networking...so I may not know what I am talking about.

For the rest of you out there, buy the SonicWall unless you have the money and expertise and then you should of course go with Cisco. You will be up and running in under 10 minutes. And if you have a problem, they have technical support.

Free products offer, oh wait..limited or no support.

And look at his mess of cables!!

Stupid, wait...let me check my bank account that stupidity has brought me....7 figures and growing....so I guess not recommending free crapware has made me very rich.
When speaking in terms of quality networking software, using the term "crapware" to describe Linux and packages like pfsense shows how ignorant you are... Properly configured and secured, I can make a Linux or BSD box do everything that you can do with a Cisco router and more.

And Cisco only uses linux on its VOIP and consumer products. IOS (found on its enterprise firewall and router products) is a hardened operating system and the backbone of the Internet core routers.
Apparently you don't subscribe to the CERT lists because your statement about IOS being "hardened" is anything but true...

As for manufacturers using Linux... Several competing manufacturers are using OSS as their base router OS. For example, Juniper, which kicks Cisco's ass, is using FreeBSD as the OS on their routers. The CLI is just a userland that runs ON TOP of FreeBSD.

quantumvoice

join:2006-11-17
Ann Arbor, MI

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reply to dcdeadbeat
And Cisco only uses linux on its VOIP and consumer products. IOS (found on its enterprise firewall and router products) is a hardened operating system and the backbone of the Internet core routers.
Actually, Cisco PIX does not run "IOS". The IOS that runs on Cisco's "enterprise" class routing platforms is still using (unprotected) "shared" memory architecture and is constantly plagued by bugs. These bugs are often triggered by certain combinations of features and can turn an upgrade into a nightmarish game of Russian roulette.

However, IOS-XR eliminates the majority of these problems but is only available on a handful of high end carrier class routers (GSR, CRS-1, etc.).