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karlmarx
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Re: If you cap it,they will download it
But, your argument holds no merit. All of the shows on NBC are FREE already. They broadcast it over the air for all to watch. The fact that I choose to WATCH their FREE broadcast on a different medium is what annoys them. But downloading an OTA TV show from the internet is not stealing. If it's HBO or the like, then yes, you are stealing. But getting a FREE tv show in a format that is better for you is not immoral, illegal or wrong.
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Nightfall
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| said by karlmarx  :But, your argument holds no merit. All of the shows on NBC are FREE already. They broadcast it over the air for all to watch. The fact that I choose to WATCH their FREE broadcast on a different medium is what annoys them. But downloading an OTA TV show from the internet is not stealing. If it's HBO or the like, then yes, you are stealing. But getting a FREE tv show in a format that is better for you is not immoral, illegal or wrong. When it comes to television, I agree.
When it comes to software, games, music, and so on, I disagree.
I am pretty sure he was talking about the later. | |
ross
join:2000-08-16
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| said by Nightfall :said by karlmarx :But, your argument holds no merit. All of the shows on NBC are FREE already. They broadcast it over the air for all to watch. The fact that I choose to WATCH their FREE broadcast on a different medium is what annoys them. But downloading an OTA TV show from the internet is not stealing. If it's HBO or the like, then yes, you are stealing. But getting a FREE tv show in a format that is better for you is not immoral, illegal or wrong. When it comes to television, I agree. When it comes to software, games, music, and so on, I disagree. I am pretty sure he was talking about the later. I'm pretty sure x544348 couldn't possibly have been talking about anything but TV, if you are referring to x544348's comment which was a direct reply to Chyo, who was talking about TV. And, Karlmarx certainly wasn't talking about "software, games, music, and son on". You are the only one talking about "software, games, music, and son on", as far as I can see. Try to pay attention! | |
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said by karlmarx :But, your argument holds no merit. All of the shows on NBC are FREE already. They broadcast it over the air for all to watch. The fact that I choose to WATCH their FREE broadcast on a different medium is what annoys them. But downloading an OTA TV show from the internet is not stealing. If it's HBO or the like, then yes, you are stealing. But getting a FREE tv show in a format that is better for you is not immoral, illegal or wrong. Is OTA part really true? I have heard people still get DMCA'ed for sharing full episodes that can be seen and recorded OTA for free. | |
Nightfall
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said by ross :said by Nightfall :said by karlmarx :But, your argument holds no merit. All of the shows on NBC are FREE already. They broadcast it over the air for all to watch. The fact that I choose to WATCH their FREE broadcast on a different medium is what annoys them. But downloading an OTA TV show from the internet is not stealing. If it's HBO or the like, then yes, you are stealing. But getting a FREE tv show in a format that is better for you is not immoral, illegal or wrong. When it comes to television, I agree. When it comes to software, games, music, and so on, I disagree. I am pretty sure he was talking about the later. I'm pretty sure x544348 couldn't possibly have been talking about anything but TV, if you are referring to x544348's comment which was a direct reply to Chyo, who was talking about TV. And, Karlmarx certainly wasn't talking about "software, games, music, and son on". You are the only one talking about "software, games, music, and son on", as far as I can see. Try to pay attention! You were replying to what swhx7 said. At least that is what I thought. Obviously, you didn't mean to click on the "Reply" box on his post. You meant to do it on the first post.
As for the "try to pay attention" remark, you might want to invoke a little more respectable attitude. People make reply mistakes all the time. Belittling someone is not really a great course of action. | |
Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
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| reply to karlmarx
said by karlmarx :But, your argument holds no merit. All of the shows on NBC are FREE already. They broadcast it over the air for all to watch. The fact that I choose to WATCH their FREE broadcast on a different medium is what annoys them. But downloading an OTA TV show from the internet is not stealing. If it's HBO or the like, then yes, you are stealing. But getting a FREE tv show in a format that is better for you is not immoral, illegal or wrong. If the version you downloaded has all the commercials intact I would agree with you, but all downloaded shows (pay or pirated) have the commercials removed. The commercials are what makes the show free. When the commercials are removed it is no longer free and at that point it would be considered stealing.
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@ssa.gov | My VCR automatically skips commercials. I guess it is stealing?
If I manually fast forward, am I stealing? | |
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ross
join:2000-08-16
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| reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall :You were replying to what swhx7 said. At least that is what I thought. Obviously, you didn't mean to click on the "Reply" box on his post. You meant to do it on the first post. As for the "try to pay attention" remark, you might want to invoke a little more respectable attitude. People make reply mistakes all the time. Belittling someone is not really a great course of action. Absolutely not! You took issue with karlmarx, who was taking issue with x544348, who was taking issue with swhx7, who was questioning Chiyo.
I was taking issue with you for the reason I stated. That is why I clicked on your post reply box, not anyone else's.
The point was no one was talking about anything but TV, until you tried to introduce "software, games, music, and so on", which was irrelevant to karlmarx's reply to x544348. You then attributed the addition of software, games, etc. to x544348 by inference; "I am pretty sure he (emphasis added) was talking about the latter."-Nightfall
The discussion was/is about broadcast TV programs downloaded off the net...and I agree with karlmarx, not with x544348, and so, apparently, do you. So why your off-topic reference to illegal downloading of software, games, etc., muddying the waters? Either you had an agenda, or you weren't paying attention. Either way, your remarks re illegal "software, games, music, and so on", were irrelevant, and only served to obfuscate the points so aptly summarized by karlmarx.
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TK Junk Mail
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ross
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| said by TK Junk Mail :I wasn't just talking TV. I was talking about pirating in general. I understood exactly what you had to say. So did karlmarx. | |
KrK
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said by Hehe :
My VCR automatically skips commercials. I guess it is stealing?
If I manually fast forward, am I stealing?
YOU TERRORIST!!
j/k 
Well sorta. Seriously, I think there are some types who think like that.
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