robertfl
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join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL | Market Tolorance
The reason why we are so far behind is because people are buying it.
It's time the USA caught up in the broadband wars
Not just in selected rich neighbourhoods where FIOS rules but EVERYWHERE.
-Rob |
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soothsayer15
join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX
| said by robertfl  :The reason why we are so far behind is because people are buying it. It's time the USA caught up in the broadband wars Not just in selected rich neighbourhoods where FIOS rules but EVERYWHERE. -Rob That's the problem with a lot of BBR members, talking nonsense out of their behind. Rich neighborhoods? Yea, it would seem that way if you have bad credit and/or live in your parent's basement. Owning a $200,000 - $400,000 doesn't mean rich. It means you make enough money and have decent enough credit to own a house in a nice neighborhood. BBR is good at getting sheep to believe that only people that live in mansions can get FIOS. Don't throw a fit because your trailer park or run-down apartment complex is passed over for FIOS.
Another thing people like to spew is, "It's only $35 in South Korea." The average income in South Korea is $23,000 a year, it's $43,000 in here in the US. $35 a month is a lot more expensive if your salary is $23k than if it's $43k. But people here hate to think about facts, it interferes with their simple-minded fantasy of how the world works. Gas is $0.65 sents a gallon is Egypt, but in averge income is $4,000 a year. I guess to BBR South Korea sheep, that's a good trade off. |
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greendragon
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join:2003-09-20
Stewartville, MN | Wow....
I officially don't like you.
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Folding for our future!! |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
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said by soothsayer15 :said by robertfl :The reason why we are so far behind is because people are buying it. It's time the USA caught up in the broadband wars Not just in selected rich neighbourhoods where FIOS rules but EVERYWHERE. -Rob That's the problem with a lot of BBR members, talking nonsense out of their behind. Rich neighborhoods? Yea, it would seem that way if you have bad credit and/or live in your parent's basement. Owning a $200,000 - $400,000 doesn't mean rich. It means you make enough money and have decent enough credit to own a house in a nice neighborhood. BBR is good at getting sheep to believe that only people that live in mansions can get FIOS. Don't throw a fit because your trailer park or run-down apartment complex is passed over for FIOS. Another thing people like to spew is, "It's only $35 in South Korea." The average income in South Korea is $23,000 a year, it's $43,000 in here in the US. $35 a month is a lot more expensive if your salary is $23k than if it's $43k. But people here hate to think about facts, it interferes with their simple-minded fantasy of how the world works. Gas is $0.65 sents a gallon is Egypt, but in averge income is $4,000 a year. I guess to BBR South Korea sheep, that's a good trade off. You may have something to the argument of cost comparisons around the world, however you totally miss the boat on one key issue.
DEPLOYMENT! There are different reasons why South Korea has virtually universal deployment and the USA does not! You can say the same as to the speed ratios as well. There are both rural and non-rural black holes where you can only get dialup connections and have limited access to satellite broadband. The other problem is your asking industries which have done business a certain way for so long that change (investment) has been until recently very conservative. Verizon has only become serious about footprint overlay in the past 3-4 years. Therefore, unless your prepared to MOVE, universal access will be a benefit of the NEXT generation of children.. not today's (2015+) |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
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said by soothsayer15 :... But people here hate to think about facts, ... yeah, I hate to think about the facts:
* monopoly/duopoly industry and lack of competition
* an FCC that cares more about what the telcos want than what consumers or the nations needs
* legislators that are bought and paid for to do the bidding of the telcos
and finally, the fact the U.S. is years behind the most advanced nations in broadband, with no hope for catching up anytime soon.
So yeah, I hate to think about the facts. |
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soothsayer15
join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX
| said by nasadude :said by soothsayer15 :... But people here hate to think about facts, ... yeah, I hate to think about the facts: * monopoly/duopoly industry and lack of competition * an FCC that cares more about what the telcos want than what consumers or the nations needs * legislators that are bought and paid for to do the bidding of the telcos and finally, the fact the U.S. is years behind the most advanced nations in broadband, with no hope for catching up anytime soon. So yeah, I hate to think about the facts. You just spewed more of the same. All you did was just bring up a bunch of points which does nothing to highlight the differences between South Korea's economy and ours. Perhaps you prefer to live in a socialist economy and pay for the porn, movies, and mp3's of those who are too lazy to work. I don't. It's also nice how you chose to ignore the fact salaries differences actually makes their price $65- 72$ a month on average. How many Americans would pay that much for service? Not many, the majority of Americans care about price.
I'll pick apart your flimsy arguments with real facts, not some BBR fed to me, because I know how to research and think for myself.
Bad point #1: Monopoly/duopoly industry and lack of competition
- South Korea really only has one ISP, Korea Telecom. Oh wait! That sounds like a monopolistic telco to me. I wonder why BBR leaves that out whenever they have a story about South Korea's Broadband. It's called card stacking. It's a form of propaganda.
Bad point #2: an FCC that cares more about what the telcos want than what consumers or the nations needs
- Please. You can say the same thing about Congress, the US Food & Drug Administration, or the EPA. Nice how you do back it up without any facts. That form of propaganda is called simplification. They really don't care about anyone's needs? Or your needs which you assume is everyone's?
Bad point #3: legislators that are bought and paid for to do the bidding of the telcos
- South Korea until very recently, had HUGE problem with corruption that make ours congressmen look like clergy members who took a vow of poverty. Oh yea, that's more simplification. A simple answer for a complex issues.
If this is representative of NASA, no wonder no major breakthroughs have come out of there in a while. |
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Juiced
join:2001-09-10
Portland, OR | reply to soothsayer15
Ditto  |
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