Jason Levine
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| View Source Infringes Copyright
This is too hilarious (yet at the same time, very sad). Apparently, Dozier Internet Law believes that the copyright on their website allows them to forbid anyone from viewing the HTML code on their website. They also forbid linking to their site without permission.
So, according to them, I'm breaking the law if I say that I went to »www.cybertriallawyer.com/ and clicked View->Page Source.
How stupid can you get?
(Credit where credit is due: I read this on »pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2007/···gre.html ) |
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Dersgniw
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| Here's the user agreement with this stuff... »www.cybertriallawyer.com/user-agreement it is kind of funny. Whatever you do, DON'T hit view-source when you get to their site or you are breaking the terms.
Search for this to see the good stuff:
quote:
As you may know, you can view the HTML code with a standard browser. We do not permit you to view such code since we consider it to be our intellectual property protected by the copyright laws. You are therefore not authorized to do so.
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ihaddsl
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1 edit | These guys need to go back to law school.. Copyright does not give them the right to prevent viewing, as the name implied Copyright is about making copies, not viewing or listening to something
since the html code is already downloaded you your computer when you visit the page, you are not engaging in any further 'copying' in any sense when you select 'view source'
edit: after actually reading the link (shock horror) I see it's about the implicit user agreement not about copyright really, but still on shaky ground to say the least |
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Rob
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Kendall, FL | reply to Jason Levine
They have an ugly website, who want to copy it ? |
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Dersgniw
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said by ihaddsl  :edit: after actually reading the link (shock horror) I see it's about the implicit user agreement not about copyright really, but still on shaky ground to say the least Exactly.. by using their website you agree not to view their source. It's interesting... I think I'll copy their user agreement to my website.. without their stupid link of course. 
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My browser is "viewing" the source in order to display that page. So by visiting that web site, I'm causing my browser to break that law. They might as well have "reading this sentence is against the terms of use for this site" in their copyright statement. It makes about as much sense.
I can understand protecting things, but that's overboard. It's also rather pompous. These guys seem like putzes. Let's make lots of blustery threats and scare the uninitiated. I'm sure there's a grandma in Peoria losing sleep over this, but elsewhere life goes on unchanged.
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said by what they really meant :
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This isn't surprising, read the tag line on the main page: We Protect the Reputations and the Intellectual Property of Businesses on the Web.
Mr Dozier is a scumbag lawyer. Nothing to see here, move along.
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Jason Levine
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Wow. Just when you thought they couldn't get any slimier, it turns out that they are proud spammer lawyers also! »www.cybertriallawyer.com/commerc···ail-spam
Maybe the prohibition against linking to or viewing the source code of their site is a good thing. If no one (including Google) linked to their site, maybe they would go out of business. |
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Jafo232
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Probably trying to setup Google for some sort of lawsuit when the spider comes a-knockin.. |
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Kearnstd
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however isnt there a text file you can put in your main web directory that basicly tells google not to index you if you want to remain unlisted?
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Jon
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quote:
What is Website Copyright Infringement?
Copyright law protects original creative work. When you take someone's work, that act can be copyright infringement. On a website, creative works can include:
* The words used (text).
* The graphics and images used.
* The data present.
* The HTML code, other code, and scripts.
How can you Copyright HTML code? |
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| reply to Dersgniw
said by Dersgniw :Here's the user agreement with this stuff... » www.cybertriallawyer.com/user-agreement it is kind of funny. Whatever you do, DON'T hit view-source when you get to their site or you are breaking the terms. Search for this to see the good stuff: quote:
As you may know, you can view the HTML code with a standard browser. We do not permit you to view such code since we consider it to be our intellectual property protected by the copyright laws. You are therefore not authorized to do so.
Oh crud, I click on the link then accidentally hit view source. I hear sirens now. Am I in trouble? |
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I think the worse part is that they must actually get clients.
Its sad when companies don't know what they are getting themselves into. I saw a designers portfolio today that landed a really nice job. I got the address from the card and the site and portfolio sites really look like a preschooler did them. Worse then some of the worse Ive seen. And these are major corporations...
I amazed people would hire these people based on statements like that. I doubt if they got al gore "the creator of the internet" or whatever any of that bs would hold up in court. Id like to take their html and style it differently with css just to tempt them
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Gwellin
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So, who wants to use their Legal Matter Submission page to send them their own source code? »www.cybertriallawyer.com/legal-matter (whoops, I guess I shouldn't have linked them  )
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chazpaw
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These guys need to be locked up in a rubber room to protect them from themselves. |
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OZO
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Thank you for the link to this site. I'll keep the link to it as vivid example of stupidity of Internet law firm.
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This is the same law firm that tried to copyright their
own Cease & Desist notice, which Public Citizen then
called them out about it and posted it and a scathing
reply (also sent to them). This was concerning such a
notice sent to a website called infomercialscams.com and
some related sites over calling Directbuy a scam (which
it is.) They did this in order to try and avoid the
Streisand Effect, but really all they did was draw more
unwanted attention to themselves, daring people to flout
their so-called "copyright".
Let's see. Spammers as clients. These guys are definitely
cart00neys.
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Potaje
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That sucks.
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said by Jason Levine :This is too hilarious (yet at the same time, very sad). Apparently, Dozier Internet Law believes that the copyright on their website allows them to forbid anyone from viewing the HTML code on their website. They also forbid linking to their site without permission. So, according to them, I'm breaking the law if I say that I went to » www.cybertriallawyer.com/ and clicked View->Page Source. How stupid can you get? (Credit where credit is due: I read this on » pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2007/···gre.html ) sucks for people using Links browser »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_%28w···owser%29 and are viewing in HTML mode or those using FireFox with split screen (view/code)  |
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