Midak
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1 edit | [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real?
This one stinks of hoax but my google searches turned up nothing to confirm or debunk. Anyone have anything to prove it one way or the other?
Subject: EZ Pass Information UPDATE!!
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> New York State started a pilot program upstate
> north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass
> system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the
> highway. Once an Easy Pass equipped vehicle passes, the device
> registers the account number and the time. Same is again registered at
> the next "check-point". Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets
> in the mail to the guilty persons.
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> Because every driver does not have Easy Pass,
> the State is "perplexed" as what to do to impose the system state-wide.
> The solution has been found. Soon all new vehicle registration stickers
> will have a metal strip or chip imbedded in same. This will take the
> place of the Easy Pass system as stated above. When a vehicle passes
> the registering device, the strip will relay all the information.
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> This is not fictional. New York State
> contracted with VERIZON to install the system. The system has already
> been installed and the entire Bronx River Parkway in Westchester County
> has been "wired" for when the new system begins. Once the State
> makes the new program public and advises all motorists of the potential
> for numerous speeding tickets, it will also reveal that the system has
> already been installed.
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> Another reason that will be given for the new
> system is to enable the authorities to track stolen vehicles, to trace
> kidnap victims, to monitor and trace suspected criminals and terrorists,
> etc.
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> BIG BROTHER IS ALIVE AND WELL.
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> Pass this along to every one you know.
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Chinabound
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clubs: | Re: EZ Pass hoax or real?
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Pass this along to every one you know.
This should throw you a hint. |
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lilhurricane
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Midak
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1 edit | reply to Chinabound
EDIT. Hopefully someone can find this to be a hoax. |
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Chinabound
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This would be front page news. |
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HardwareGeek
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Brooklyn, NY | Isn't this what they do already in some states.
Especially where they charge your toll on how far you go.
Some people have been caught cheating in PA because of the way EZ pass is done there. |
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Chinabound
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| Out here in Chicagoland, they call it "I-Pass" (which now works out there - yay!), and the possibility has been brought up before on the local morning news. It isn't happening here, and I would assume that it isn't out there either, or everyone would know about it and be livid.
What do you mean "cheating"? Speeding? I take I-80 across Pennsylvania so I don't pay any tolls. But before I-80 was completed (back in the early 70s I believe), we used to have to take the PA turnpike and pick up the New Jersey Turnpike. Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding. The only reason I say this is because I remember my father slowing down to the speed limit in NJ and my grandmother mentioning it when they ran trucks (veggies) downstate. We flew across IN, OH and PA though (I still do) - all toll roads with the time stamped card when you pick it up.
If this ever comes to be, I am certain Ohio will be the first. The cops are all over like fly shit on their stretch of I-80. |
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Midak
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Yonkers, NY | I got nailed going through Ohio on 80 at around 3AM. I mean, WTF, who in their right mind sets up a speed trap at 3AM??? |
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The Dv8or
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| said by Midak  :I got nailed going through Ohio on 80 at around 3AM. I mean, WTF, who in their right mind sets up a speed trap at 3AM??? It worked, didnt it?
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sheik28
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If I was to guess I would say it's based off of what they proposed in Texas. RFID chips in registration stickers.
There is also a system in the UK that uses chips in license plates.
UK STORY
TEXAS STORY HERE
AND HERE
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PCInTech
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Smells highly of "ridiculous". There is NO WHERE in Northern NY, North of the Thruway where Easy Pass is even used! There are no TOLLS on the Adirondack Northway, which is what I-87 becomes after Albany. IF it were true, then it would only target the city Downstaters, as locals don't have Easy Pass, having no use for it. |
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Nick
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Two things,
Ohio is the worst state for speeding. That's a well known fact.
There are EZPass readers at lots of random places and the system they're using it for on Long Island is to calculate approximate drive time between major roads on Long Island (Meadowbrook, 110, etc)
It reads all cars with EZPasses then when you cross the next EZPass reader it calculates the approximate drive time and an average of some sort is displayed on big boards along Northern State parkway.
So....Can it be used to catch speeding? YES
Is it being used to do that...I'll venture to say NO.
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81399672
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| reply to Midak
it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."
This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
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fcisler
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| reply to Midak
NY? I don't know...
Florida? I have heard from my landlords that they do this down there. They call their system "Sun Pass" or something similar. He has told me that he received a letter once warning him that he passed between X and Y too quickly, and future infractions may result in a ticket...
That was his first and last, as he canceled the account (he is an older man who doesn't want to be bothered).
But hmm....I vaguely recall someone telling me about this in NY, but since I cannot remember anything more - I won't speculate. |
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JerseyDevil
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This is a hoax but the recording devices they mentioned are real which leads people to believe this as true. So far I have only seen the readers in upstate new york myself but the idea behind it is that by tracking ez-pass information they will be able to do studies on traffic congestion in certain areas.
I know that they easy could do a math equation and create speeding tickets based on speed and distance the reason they don't is because then everyone would get rid of ez-pass and its main purpose of reducing congestion would be lost.
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PCInTech
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| said by JerseyDevil :This is a hoax but the recording devices they mentioned are real which leads people to believe this as true. So far I have only seen the readers in upstate new york myself but the idea behind it is that by tracking ez-pass information they will be able to do studies on traffic congestion in certain areas. By "upstate", where do you mean? The highway mentioned in the OP, the "Northway" (Adirondack Northway) would have no reason whatsoever to have any devices having anything to do with Easy Pass. The Northway is 187 miles long, and there are no more tolls North of Albany. Residents of the entire area of Northern NY, have no reason to have Easy Pass. These new mysterious devices along the Northway may possibly be part of the new emergency call box system, installed because there is NO CELL PHONE service along most of that route until you hit Plattsburgh. |
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JerseyDevil
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| Actually there are device on teh thurway in the area between Syracuse and Buffalo that I have seen this summer on a trip to Toronto.
They are real and that is there purpose as I know some people that are very familar with ez-pass.
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PCInTech
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| said by JerseyDevil :Actually there are device on teh thurway in the area between Syracuse and Buffalo that I have seen this summer on a trip to Toronto. They are real and that is there purpose as I know some people that are very familar with ez-pass. Yes, but that is the mid-portion of the State, on the NYS Thruway. Central New York.
The OP says:
"> New York State started a pilot program upstate
> north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass
> system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the
> highway. "
The "Northway" runs from Albany to Montreal, Quebec, leaving New York at Champlain. There are no tolls anywhere NORTH of the Thruway in the Center of the State, either on I-87 "Adirondack Northway" portion, nor the only other Interstate along Lake Ontario, I-81 from Syracuse to Alexandria Bay. No one has Easy Pass, so "readers" would serve no purpose. That tells me that the letter is absolutely a Hoax. |
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JerseyDevil
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| said by PCInTech :Yes, but that is the mid-portion of the State, on the NYS Thruway. Central New York. The OP says: "> New York State started a pilot program upstate > north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass > system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the > highway. " The "Northway" runs from Albany to Montreal, Quebec, leaving New York at Champlain. There are no tolls anywhere NORTH of the Thruway in the Center of the State, either on I-87 "Adirondack Northway" portion, nor the only other Interstate along Lake Ontario, I-81 from Syracuse to Alexandria Bay. No one has Easy Pass, so "readers" would serve no purpose. That tells me that the letter is absolutely a Hoax. Ok missed that part either way the technology to do what is mentioned is real and does exist in parts of the state, however it is not used for a ticket issuing purpose. |
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The Dv8or
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Im still gonna forward it to everyone I know. |
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