Midak
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1 edit | [OT] EZ Pass hoax or real? This one stinks of hoax but my google searches turned up nothing to confirm or debunk. Anyone have anything to prove it one way or the other?
Subject: EZ Pass Information UPDATE!!
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> New York State started a pilot program upstate
> north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass
> system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the
> highway. Once an Easy Pass equipped vehicle passes, the device
> registers the account number and the time. Same is again registered at
> the next "check-point". Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets
> in the mail to the guilty persons.
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> Because every driver does not have Easy Pass,
> the State is "perplexed" as what to do to impose the system state-wide.
> The solution has been found. Soon all new vehicle registration stickers
> will have a metal strip or chip imbedded in same. This will take the
> place of the Easy Pass system as stated above. When a vehicle passes
> the registering device, the strip will relay all the information.
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> This is not fictional. New York State
> contracted with VERIZON to install the system. The system has already
> been installed and the entire Bronx River Parkway in Westchester County
> has been "wired" for when the new system begins. Once the State
> makes the new program public and advises all motorists of the potential
> for numerous speeding tickets, it will also reveal that the system has
> already been installed.
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> Another reason that will be given for the new
> system is to enable the authorities to track stolen vehicles, to trace
> kidnap victims, to monitor and trace suspected criminals and terrorists,
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> BIG BROTHER IS ALIVE AND WELL.
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Pass this along to every one you know.
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Midak
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1 edit | EDIT. Hopefully someone can find this to be a hoax. | |
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Chinabound
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This would be front page news. | |
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HardwareGeek
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? Isn't this what they do already in some states.
Especially where they charge your toll on how far you go.
Some people have been caught cheating in PA because of the way EZ pass is done there. | |
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? Out here in Chicagoland, they call it "I-Pass" (which now works out there - yay!), and the possibility has been brought up before on the local morning news. It isn't happening here, and I would assume that it isn't out there either, or everyone would know about it and be livid.
What do you mean "cheating"? Speeding? I take I-80 across Pennsylvania so I don't pay any tolls. But before I-80 was completed (back in the early 70s I believe), we used to have to take the PA turnpike and pick up the New Jersey Turnpike. Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding. The only reason I say this is because I remember my father slowing down to the speed limit in NJ and my grandmother mentioning it when they ran trucks (veggies) downstate. We flew across IN, OH and PA though (I still do) - all toll roads with the time stamped card when you pick it up.
If this ever comes to be, I am certain Ohio will be the first. The cops are all over like fly shit on their stretch of I-80. | |
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Yonkers, NY | Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? I got nailed going through Ohio on 80 at around 3AM. I mean, WTF, who in their right mind sets up a speed trap at 3AM??? | |
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by Midak  :I got nailed going through Ohio on 80 at around 3AM. I mean, WTF, who in their right mind sets up a speed trap at 3AM??? It worked, didnt it?
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| said by Midak :I got nailed going through Ohio on 80 at around 3AM. I mean, WTF, who in their right mind sets up a speed trap at 3AM??? Cops under their quota!
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| OH poor baby. You got busted for braking the law. My heart bleeds for you. Was it a speed trap or just cops out doing their job at night? You do know cops do work at night too.
My guess is they're manly looking for drunks at night but got you cause well you broke the law. Yep I'm going to go around town tonight and run some red lights I mean why not it's night laws mean nothing at night. | |
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| said by Chinabound :Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding. Nope, they never did that. | |
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by Bobcat :said by Chinabound :Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding. Nope, they never did that. I just spent an hour trying to find information about it, but I cannot.
You may want to check with some of your elders that drove it back in the early 60s. I'll bet money they will say it happened. My grandmother and one of their workers who was ticketed this way (he lives across the street from her still) said they did.
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by Chinabound :said by Bobcat :said by Chinabound :Back then, I believe NJTP would check the time on your card and possibly cite you for speeding. Nope, they never did that. I just spent an hour trying to find information about it, but I cannot. That's because they never did it.
In fact, it wasn't until the magnetic stripes were added to the tickets that they were able to stop people from flip-flopping two different cards in order to travel the full length of the Turnpike but pay the toll for going only 1 exit. I can describe how to do this if you want (doesn't work anymore). | |
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? Well, I'm not sure how anyone would get two cards other than telling them you lost the one you had, resulting in paying the full fare, which takes away any savings.
Just do me a small favor please. I have no idea how old you are, but if you have any relatives older than 70, ask them about it. | |
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Bobcat
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? Example for a regular commute from the areas of exit 1 to 18:
• 1. Enter at interchange 1, take ticket.
• 2. Exit at 18, say you lost ticket, pay toll for trip from 1 to 18, which is what you would have paid anyway.
• 3. On the way home, enter at 18, take ticket.
• 4. Exit at 2, give ticket from the morning, pay toll from 1 to 2 even though you traveled from 18 to 2. At this point, you still have a ticket from entering at 18.
• 5. Next day, enter at 1, take ticket.
• 6. Exit at 16, give ticket from previous day, pay toll from 18 to 16 even though you traveled from 1 to 16.
• 7. On the way home, enter at 18, take ticket.
• 8. Exit at 2, give ticket from the morning, pay toll from 1 to 2 even though you traveled from 18 to 2. At this point, you still have a ticket from entering at 18.
• 9. Repeat steps 5-8 forever.
Accurate timing information wasn't available until they added the magnetic stripes, because the old machines were not synchronized. So there was no way to prevent abuses like the above or to measure vehicles' speeds.
The other reason you can't give speeding tickets based on toll plaza timing is that the tickets have to issued indicating the specific municipality in which the violation occurred. With toll plaza timing, you know the average speed, but 1) you don't know in which municipality the violation occurred, and 2) you don't know in which of the many municipalities to issue the ticket.
And I have relatives over 80 years old, but what you're talking about never happened. | |
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? So you won't even ask them?
I don't know - I am only telling you what I was told from two people I trust completely, that were driving it 50 years ago. I wasn't driving until 1975.
So before this goes any further, just ask your elderly relatives. | |
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sheik28
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| If I was to guess I would say it's based off of what they proposed in Texas. RFID chips in registration stickers.
There is also a system in the UK that uses chips in license plates.
UK STORY
TEXAS STORY HERE
AND HERE
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Ohio is the worst state for speeding. That's a well known fact.
There are EZPass readers at lots of random places and the system they're using it for on Long Island is to calculate approximate drive time between major roads on Long Island (Meadowbrook, 110, etc)
It reads all cars with EZPasses then when you cross the next EZPass reader it calculates the approximate drive time and an average of some sort is displayed on big boards along Northern State parkway.
So....Can it be used to catch speeding? YES
Is it being used to do that...I'll venture to say NO.
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| it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register
> points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons."
This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax.
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by 81399672 :it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register > points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons." This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax. A red light ticket which is a moving violation sends it to the owner of the car without knowing who actaully passed the red light so the owner is punished even if they were not the operator at the time of the violation.
Why would speeding be any different???
The technology to use easy pass to catch speeders is available, it's just a question about whether or not governments decide to use it.
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2 edits | Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? Whatever the case may be, the statement in the OP shows "Easy Pass". Any official statement wouldnt f**k up E-Z Pass that badly.
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| said by CLNYC :said by 81399672 :it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register > points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons." This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax. A red light ticket which is a moving violation sends it to the owner of the car without knowing who actaully passed the red light so the owner is punished even if they were not the operator at the time of the violation. Why would speeding be any different??? The technology to use easy pass to catch speeders is available, it's just a question about whether or not governments decide to use it. Red light cameras take a photo(s) of the offender. Ticket is still sent to registered owner, who can, in some cases when the photo isn't clear or clear that it is not them (i.e. woman driving, but car is registered to man), actually get out of the ticket.
The scheme in the OP has no way of knowing who is driving the car, unless cameras are also installed at the check points. | |
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by bjl :said by CLNYC :said by 81399672 :it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register > points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons." This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax. A red light ticket which is a moving violation sends it to the owner of the car without knowing who actaully passed the red light so the owner is punished even if they were not the operator at the time of the violation. Why would speeding be any different??? The technology to use easy pass to catch speeders is available, it's just a question about whether or not governments decide to use it. Red light cameras take a photo(s) of the offender. Ticket is still sent to registered owner, who can, in some cases when the photo isn't clear or clear that it is not them (i.e. woman driving, but car is registered to man), actually get out of the ticket. The scheme in the OP has no way of knowing who is driving the car, unless cameras are also installed at the check points. Red light camera systems can be designed to photograph only a vehicle's rear license plate, not vehicle occupants, depending on local law. Only vehicles driven by motorists who violate the law are photographed.
Violations photographed by red light cameras are most commonly treated in one of two ways — as traffic violations or as the equivalent of parking tickets, depending on state law. If, as in New York, red light camera violations are treated like parking citations, the law can make registered vehicle owners responsible without regard to who was driving at the time of the offense.
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| said by CLNYC :said by 81399672 :it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register > points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons." This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax. A red light ticket which is a moving violation sends it to the owner of the car without knowing who actaully passed the red light so the owner is punished even if they were not the operator at the time of the violation. Why would speeding be any different??? The technology to use easy pass to catch speeders is available, it's just a question about whether or not governments decide to use it. What brilance said, plus in states like california if u r not register driver u can get out of the ticket just by claiming it's not you. You're not required to id who the driver is. Btw in op case, no picture is even provided to register owner | |
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New Fairfield, CT | Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? The EZpass system can hold all types of statistics. If NY was to decide to use the system in this manner I would think it would have been all over the news by now. | |
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sheik28
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1 edit | said by 81399672 :What brilance said, plus in states like california if u r not register driver u can get out of the ticket just by claiming it's not you. You're not required to id who the driver is. Btw in op case, no picture is even provided to register owner The California must be more lenient than NY. If you dispute the ticket on the grounds that it is not you, you must provide a notarized letter from the person who was driving. The ticket will then be issued in their name.
As far as EZ Pass tickets are concerned, right now they ticket you automatically for speeding through a toll. A while back there were several known speed traps that were set up through the EZ Pass system that were placed along a few highways/interstates in NY. Supposedly that practice was stopped but who knows. | |
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81399672
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by sheik28 :said by 81399672 :What brilance said, plus in states like california if u r not register driver u can get out of the ticket just by claiming it's not you. You're not required to id who the driver is. Btw in op case, no picture is even provided to register owner The California must be more lenient than NY. If you dispute the ticket on the grounds that it is not you, you must provide a notarized letter from the person who was driving. The ticket will then be issued in their name. As far as EZ Pass tickets are concerned, right now they ticket you automatically for speeding through a toll. A while back there were several known speed traps that were set up through the EZ Pass system that were placed along a few highways/interstates in NY. Supposedly that practice was stopped but who knows. You can't refuse to release name as you never agree to testify and also for privacy reasons? If that is the case, that is interesting. | |
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sheik28
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New York, NY | Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? It's not interesting. You pay the ticket or say who it is. Very simple. | |
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by sheik28 :It's not interesting. You pay the ticket or say who it is. Very simple. Is their such law, if not then you can tell them to take a hike. At least i would and would challange it. | |
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sheik28
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New York, NY | Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? Good for you.
You like to challenge a lot of laws apparently. | |
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| said by 81399672 :it's hoax, this should clue you in "Based upon the distance between the register > points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons." This how our speeding laws work, in order for speeding ticket to be valid, state must be able to id the driver this in control of the vehicle. Just because you driving a car with easypass do not mean you owe the car. To me this is clearly a hoax. Not true... back about 15 years ago our car was stolen. about 3 weeks later we received in the mail a speeding ticket from GEORGIA. We lived in Michigan. The ticket was dropped after we sent a copy of our police report but still. And that was 15 years ago. | |
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fcisler
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| NY? I don't know...
Florida? I have heard from my landlords that they do this down there. They call their system "Sun Pass" or something similar. He has told me that he received a letter once warning him that he passed between X and Y too quickly, and future infractions may result in a ticket...
That was his first and last, as he canceled the account (he is an older man who doesn't want to be bothered).
But hmm....I vaguely recall someone telling me about this in NY, but since I cannot remember anything more - I won't speculate. | |
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JerseyDevil
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| This is a hoax but the recording devices they mentioned are real which leads people to believe this as true. So far I have only seen the readers in upstate new york myself but the idea behind it is that by tracking ez-pass information they will be able to do studies on traffic congestion in certain areas.
I know that they easy could do a math equation and create speeding tickets based on speed and distance the reason they don't is because then everyone would get rid of ez-pass and its main purpose of reducing congestion would be lost.
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? Actually there are device on teh thurway in the area between Syracuse and Buffalo that I have seen this summer on a trip to Toronto.
They are real and that is there purpose as I know some people that are very familar with ez-pass.
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by JerseyDevil :Actually there are device on teh thurway in the area between Syracuse and Buffalo that I have seen this summer on a trip to Toronto. They are real and that is there purpose as I know some people that are very familar with ez-pass. Yes, but that is the mid-portion of the State, on the NYS Thruway. Central New York.
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"> New York State started a pilot program upstate
> north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass
> system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the
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The "Northway" runs from Albany to Montreal, Quebec, leaving New York at Champlain. There are no tolls anywhere NORTH of the Thruway in the Center of the State, either on I-87 "Adirondack Northway" portion, nor the only other Interstate along Lake Ontario, I-81 from Syracuse to Alexandria Bay. No one has Easy Pass, so "readers" would serve no purpose. That tells me that the letter is absolutely a Hoax. | |
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| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by PCInTech :Yes, but that is the mid-portion of the State, on the NYS Thruway. Central New York. The OP says: "> New York State started a pilot program upstate > north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass > system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the > highway. " The "Northway" runs from Albany to Montreal, Quebec, leaving New York at Champlain. There are no tolls anywhere NORTH of the Thruway in the Center of the State, either on I-87 "Adirondack Northway" portion, nor the only other Interstate along Lake Ontario, I-81 from Syracuse to Alexandria Bay. No one has Easy Pass, so "readers" would serve no purpose. That tells me that the letter is absolutely a Hoax. Ok missed that part either way the technology to do what is mentioned is real and does exist in parts of the state, however it is not used for a ticket issuing purpose. | |
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| This message follows the classic recipe for a hoax email.
Step 1: Make statements that show imminent danger or harm to the reader.
said by Midak :> New York State started a pilot program upstate > north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass > system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the > highway... Step 2: Make sure the claim is general enough to apply to anyone reading the message. In this case, that means drivers who don't use EZ-Pass.
said by Midak :> Because every driver does not have Easy Pass, > the State is "perplexed" as what to do to impose the system state-wide. > The solution has been found. Soon all new vehicle registration stickers > will have a metal strip or chip imbedded in same. This will take the > place of the Easy Pass system as stated above... Step 3: Assure the reader that it is a legitimate message. This is the best part of any hoax. You'll frequently find references to large companies in this section because it adds an air of believability. I don't know why these mentions are almost always in ALL CAPS. Most of the time it's MICROSOFT and/or AOL.
said by Midak :> This is not fictional. New York State > contracted with VERIZON to install the system. The system has already > been installed and the entire Bronx River Parkway in Westchester County > has been "wired" for when the new system begins... Step 4: Fire up the conspiracy theory
said by Midak :> Another reason that will be given for the new > system is to enable the authorities to track stolen vehicles, to trace > kidnap victims, to monitor and trace suspected criminals and terrorists, > etc. > BIG BROTHER IS ALIVE AND WELL. And finally, Step 5 - the Coupe de Gracie (heh heh):
said by Midak :> Pass this along to every one you know. I've been emailing for over 15 years. In that time I have never sent a message that was so urgent that it needed to be "blasted" to every email address ever created. I've never received a message of that importance either. Somehow I doubt a message from someone's "uncle's cousin's best friend's mother's former roommate's podiatrist" is that important either.
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Houston, TX | That was proposed here in the houston area a few years ago. It would have used existing structures to hold the devices and it would have worked for all vehicles and not only EZTag customers.
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| As JerseyDevil and CLNYC observed, it is technically feasible.
A sufficently powerful magnet will scramble a "smart card" type of chip, or a metallic responder like the ones in anti-shoplifting tags. Direct application of high current or microwaves may disable such devices as well, but would be more likely to cause other damage and be more conspicuous.
If it's ever checked by a police officer and he accuses the motorist of tampering, the correct line would be "but I just took it from the envelope and stuck it on the window like they told me to. That's all I know about it! I didn't know it was defective." | |
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| All good hoaxes start with a grain of truth.......
There is a set of these sensors checking for passing EZPass users just north of the end of the Garden State Parkway. On the connector to the NYS Thruway. They are mounted on poles that hang over the highway's right lane (Like a streetlight). The sensors are about a foot square and white.
The Thruway Authority and the Garden State Parkway use these sensors to monitor the cars with EZPass going by. If there is a slowdown, the sensors know it and can alert whatever authority needs to know.
When they went up a few years ago, there was a story about them in the local papers. They made a point of stating that they are only used for monitoring traffic, not to see who is speeding. IIRC, they purposely do not look at the ID number of the sensor passing through to ensure privacy.
Here's a quote:
SUBJECT: TRANSMIT (TRANSCOM's System for Managing Incidents and Traffic)
Operational Test
DESCRIPTION: TRANSCOM conducted an FHWA-funded operational test using electronic
toll collection (ETC) technology to detect incidents. The test successfully demonstrated that
ETC technology could be used for traffic management and incident detection. TRANSMIT
Phase I is a network of 22 roadside readers (at approximately 1.5-mile intervals along 19 miles
of the Garden State Parkway and New York State Thruway) that uses E-Z Pass toll transponder
equipped vehicles as probes. TRANSMIT collects travel time data from these vehicles and
compares them to an historical database to detect congestion-causing incidents. TRANSCOM's
Operations Information Center relays this incident information to the New York State Thruway
Authority and Garden State Parkway to allow rapid response and clearance, as well as directly to
motorists (through variable message signs or highway advisory radio) to reduce congestion. The
final evaluation reports for the project have been completed.
»www.njtpa.org/About/Business/doc···inal.pdf
It's on page 23 if you are interested....
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RealoRc
Premium
join:2003-01-25
Brooklyn, NY
| EZPass doesn't have to be linked to one specific vehicle or driver. Like JerseyDevil said, everyone will get rid of EZPass once they get tickets in the mail for speeding. Or store it in the anti-static bag to keep the tagholder from being read when not at the tolls. | |
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MrUmbra
@verizon.net | Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? Hi there RealoRC. We sang together.
--- CHAS | |
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MrUmbra
@verizon.net | If your paranoid then remove your transponder and put it into an anti-static envelope. Hold it against the windshield when you're going through a toll collection lane.
--- CHAS | |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by MrUmbra :
If your paranoid then remove your transponder and put it into an anti-static envelope. Hold it against the windshield when you're going through a toll collection lane.
--- CHAS
Speeding could still be detected by comparing times from one tollbooth to the next. | |
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whizkid3
Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-21
Queens, NY | They will never install it between Albany and New York City. That is where all the legislators & their staff do 80 mph every week. | |
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON | I'd no issue with it if it were true. People need to god damn stop speeding. Not like the assholes are going any place important. If you're late going some place then you should have lift 10 to to 15 mins earlier. | |
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Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| HOAX!!!
People will be getting rid of them ASAP. Another thought is that you have the "Silver Bags" to store when you do not want to use them. I also have some facts for you.
EZPASS can barely pick up my transponder. When I check my statement 8 out of 10 times it has to verify my account via my license plates.(SUV)
I recently had to prove to my employer for an audit for tolls. When I checked my statement I had no Tolls register because it did not pick up my "transponder" or ID my Plate
(My Motorcycle in this case. My Tag is slightly obscured by the custom plate holder:)
Lee
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"I Don't feel Tardy"
"When Clinton Lied , All that was left was a stained dress.
When Bush lied ,all that was left was 3000 + less US Soldiers.. | |
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expert007
join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY | Yes, this is true. You will get a speeding ticket in the mail if you hit EZ Pass checkpoints too soon. I'm in Buffalo and I've had this happen to friends. | |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY | This was actually tried on the New Jersey Turnpike about 3 years ago. People were mailed speeding tickets based on travel times between the two points.
There was some sort of lawsuit and it was abruptly halted. | |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: EZ Pass hoax or real? said by NY Tel :This was actually tried on the New Jersey Turnpike about 3 years ago. People were mailed speeding tickets based on travel times between the two points. There was some sort of lawsuit and it was abruptly halted. Wrong. It was NEVER done. In fact, a columnist for the Bergen Record challenged anyone to show him a ticket issued based on E-ZPass timings, and they'd get a free dinner. No one ever presented such a ticket.
There are a number of reasons why this was NEVER done in New Jersey. I can elaborate on them if you're really interested. | |
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joyauto
@optonline.net | I performed a search of pending bills in the NY State Senate and Assembly and find nothing about tracking speeders through EZ pass. | |
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