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bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
info

protocol? distance?

SB7785

join:2007-08-15
South Richmond Hill, NY
3-4 Years

Seems a little too late for me. If this was 1999, this would be "groundbreaking".


Phil
Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
reply to bogey780
Re: info

We won't see any details until they've got their patents...


Pashune
Inhaling at 675 KB per sec.
Premium
join:2006-04-14
Gautier, MS
·CableOne
·AT&T Southeast

reply to bogey780
said by bogey780 See Profile :

protocol? distance?
Would also like to know =] I wonder if I would benefit from this technology being provisioned on a 15,700 ft. loop...(22/24 AWG) Though by the time this technology hits the U.S. (assuming it does), there may very well already be a DSLAM nearby me.. or not. I'm sick of 1.5 mbit.


Phil
Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
reply to SB7785
Re: 3-4 Years

If claims of 250Mbps were true, how would that not be ground-breaking over current 3-6Mbps DSL connections?

wombough

join:2001-08-30
Beaufort, SC
because in 3 to 4 years fiber and other things will be out. In fact I think cable with DOCIS 3.0 will be killing everyone by that time!

golfextreme

join:2003-12-03
Fort Wayne, IN

Yeah, right. Just 3-4 years ago the top speed I could get for reasonable money was 6mbs, now I get a whopping 15mbs. Huge improvement for 3-4 years (yeah, right). Yes, I have fiber as well, just because they have it, doesn't mean they're going to offer it.


TScheisskopf
World News Trust

join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
reply to Pashune
Re: info

»www.rimsemi.com/

I heard from an Embarq field tech that the stuff this company makes works in field trials and could have an important impact on just what you are referencing.


Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.

join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

»www.rimsemi.com/

I heard from an Embarq field tech that the stuff this company makes works in field trials and could have an important impact on just what you are referencing.
Wow, Embarq? Sometimes they blow things badly, but other times they hit the nail on the head....let's hope the trial goes well and Embarq deploys this at all their DSLAMs eventually. I'm all for upgrading to fiber-optics, but I also realize how unrealistic that is (especially out in the country)....I guess we'll have to wait and see what Embarq has in store for us.

wombough

join:2001-08-30
Beaufort, SC
reply to golfextreme
Re: 3-4 Years

your right you won't get it unless there is a competition in the area. so if fiber and vdsl is out cable will beat the speed until one or the other is maxed.


justmy2cents

@centurytel.net
reply to bogey780
Re: info

Protocol: BS (blowing smoke) Distance probably up to and not to exceed 10'


53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone

join:2002-10-02
PwnZone
agreed. from what I understand this only works for VDSL (which is like 2500ft max 1000ft recommended). great for fttn setups like AT&T's but probably won't do anything for existing ADSL.


vzw emp

@qwest.net

reply to wombough
Re: 3-4 Years

if this works then it could mean a cheaper path to faster broadband for a whole lot of people. there would be less need to spend money on costly network upgrades. this would be especially helpful to AT&T, whose FTTN/VDSL plans would be helped greatly if there was a method by which they could get more from the VDSL side (say what they will, i still think FTTN/VDSL was the wrong choice).

just keeping my fingers crossed and hoping this turns out to be more than just hype...


RainWind

join:2000-10-20
Van Wert, OH

reply to Fox McCloud
Re: info

said by Fox McCloud See Profile :

said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

»www.rimsemi.com/

I heard from an Embarq field tech that the stuff this company makes works in field trials and could have an important impact on just what you are referencing.
Wow, Embarq? Sometimes they blow things badly, but other times they hit the nail on the head....let's hope the trial goes well and Embarq deploys this at all their DSLAMs eventually. I'm all for upgrading to fiber-optics, but I also realize how unrealistic that is (especially out in the country)....I guess we'll have to wait and see what Embarq has in store for us.
This would fit Embarq's gameplan. They aren't going FTTH. Their goal is to provide broadband to all their customers rather than hitting the metro areas with fiber. I like Verizon's approach better, but for Embarq its not an option due to cost and risk. Embarq is pretty good about getting DSL to their customers out in the middle of nowhere. They could do better, but of all the telcos they do try the hardest to service everyone.

If this works it would be big news for Embarq. Minor DSLAM upgrades and modem upgrades for new speeds would be a real winner.

NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC

reply to Phil
Re: 3-4 Years

said by Phil See Profile :

If claims of 250Mbps were true, how would that not be ground-breaking over current 3-6Mbps DSL connections?
VDSL2+ is capable of up to 100Mbps over copper already.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
You mean VDSL2. It's capable of much higher if under a short distance.


mdms

@swbell.net

reply to golfextreme
I have to agree I mean this is the United States we're talking about. All other countries may advance by leaps and bounds but most of us will still be stuck with single digital mbps because theres no competition in our area. Then if they do increase speeds, without competition theres gonna be a price to pay.


Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.

join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
·Sprint Mobile Broa..

reply to RainWind
Re: info

said by RainWind See Profile :

said by Fox McCloud See Profile :

said by TScheisskopf See Profile :

»www.rimsemi.com/

I heard from an Embarq field tech that the stuff this company makes works in field trials and could have an important impact on just what you are referencing.
Wow, Embarq? Sometimes they blow things badly, but other times they hit the nail on the head....let's hope the trial goes well and Embarq deploys this at all their DSLAMs eventually. I'm all for upgrading to fiber-optics, but I also realize how unrealistic that is (especially out in the country)....I guess we'll have to wait and see what Embarq has in store for us.
This would fit Embarq's gameplan. They aren't going FTTH. Their goal is to provide broadband to all their customers rather than hitting the metro areas with fiber. I like Verizon's approach better, but for Embarq its not an option due to cost and risk. Embarq is pretty good about getting DSL to their customers out in the middle of nowhere. They could do better, but of all the telcos they do try the hardest to service everyone.

If this works it would be big news for Embarq. Minor DSLAM upgrades and modem upgrades for new speeds would be a real winner.
especially if it gives these insanely high speeds at "good" distances.

One thing I do like about Embarq is that they do plan on having 100% coverage (by the end of 2009). Will they make it? I have my doubts, but if they do, then they can really concentrate on replacing crappy copper, bottlenecks, and invest in projects such as these.
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