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Re: It's pretty sweet

said by fiberguy See Profile :

DirecTV should be operating their service through their own broadband network. Maybe they won't because they'd be violating their own FAP too quickly.. I smell irony here.

If the end user wanted to send the request out through the broadband and then initiate the download through their own network using the direct-duo service (their own internet) then that would be one thing.. but DirecTV is passing on, like so many others, their traffic and costs to other providers.
DirecTV doesn't have "a network" - the former DirecWay service was spun off over 18 months ago and is now called HughesNet, and has nothing to do with DirecTV.

Interesting that TiVO is looking at similar content delivery opportunities:
Rogers also sees great potential in developing the broadband delivery of content to TiVos, noting that almost 1 million TiVo users have connected their DVRs to the Internet.

“That will be the catalyst for the on-demand world,” he said, adding: “The cable industry made a bad bet… video-on-demand is a highly constrained infrastructure. We have 15,000 titles via Amazon, and they’re encoding thousands more each month. The video-on-demand infrastructure just can’t match that.”
»www.multichannel.com/article/CA6499350.html

Hmmmm. But since TiVO is in bed with Comcast and Cox, that's probably OK - unless of course you're using your TiVO to do content delivery via broadband using another ISP.....

As stated in the original article, and I agree - this will be a significant test of net neutrality. Precisely why I beleive that DirecTV will need to add some 'controls' to the product - specifying windows to allow/disallow downloads (only download after midnight and before 6AM) and bandwidth percentages/QoS limits (only use 25% of the max bandwidth I have available).
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See my post above. I don't think they are using any sort of download times window, but something is limiting the bandwidth. (not sure if it's lack of output capabillity, or on purpose though)
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We're talking about entirely different things.

D* is limiting the outbound bandwidth - kind of like a valve at a dam that only lets a certain amount of water out at a time. That may be so that they can simulate the expected download times when the service is generally available. Imagine if they didn't limit it now, and the few users that are using it got the full pipe ? Those users would be spoiled, and when the load ramped up, they'd be screaming about how "the downloads suck now - they're taking 15 times longer than they used to !"

I'm describing an enhancement on the HR2x receivers that allow a user to specify:
•when to allow DOD downloads by hours of the day
•how much of the target connection bandwidth to use. If I have a 6mpbs connection, I want to limit what DOD uses to one-third of that, or a max of 2mbps. Effectively, it's a form of QoS for the receiver. And since the download appears to be taking place over ports 80 and 8080 (straight old http or https), it would be difficult to throttle that in your router.


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It's not hard at all. I have a policy set up that any connections initiated by my HR20 is limited to 4mb/s GBW and 6mb/s MBW. That still leaves me 4mb/s to play with when I'm downloading and want to surf/usenet/etc.
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