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Rob
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reply to jgkolt

Re: Give them an inch, they take a mile.

said by jgkolt:

why dont you just block is with ad block plus or the like?
Why should we have to block something that our ISP shouldn't be doing in the first place?

Why can't ISPs just connect us to the Internet and leave us alone.

openbox9
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Because ISPs are in the business of making money, not strictly providing you access to the Internet. If consumers are dissatisfied with what they're receiving for their money, then they need to take action. Block the offending material (if it starts happening) or save their money for something else.



Rob
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said by openbox9:

Because ISPs are in the business of making money, not strictly providing you access to the Internet. If consumers are dissatisfied with what they're receiving for their money, then they need to take action. Block the offending material (if it starts happening) or save their money for something else.
Yes, ISPs are in the business of making money. But I'm already paying them for my connection. It's not like I'm getting anything for free.

We cannot accept this and just say "block the offending material". That is NOT the answer. We need to stop this at the source, the ISP. We've given them so much freedom and they are abusing it.

openbox9
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Yes, you are paying for the connection that is provided to you under the terms that it is provided. Why can't you just say "block the offending material"? I do it right now and it works wonderfully.



DotMac4
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reply to openbox9

They should be legislated into not pissing with other peoples' works. What is next, telcos going to have every call you make start only after a 10 second ad spot?



Rob
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reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Yes, you are paying for the connection that is provided to you under the terms that it is provided. Why can't you just say "block the offending material"? I do it right now and it works wonderfully.
Because I will not accept this from any ISP - PERIOD. It's not about blocking the material, it's about that they shouldn't be allowed to do this in the first place.

openbox9
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Back to my original comment. Save your money, or take it elsewhere. That type of action will be what gets ISPs' attentions the quickest. Whining in a forum or hoping for some inept "net neutrality" law to be passed, won't drive ISPs to change their actions.


openbox9
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reply to DotMac4

They aren't "pissing" with other peoples' works.



Rob
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reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Back to my original comment. Save your money, or take it elsewhere. That type of action will be what gets ISPs' attentions the quickest. Whining in a forum or hoping for some inept "net neutrality" law to be passed, won't drive ISPs to change their actions.
Oh for sure. The minute my ISP (Comcast) imposes this, I will be switching.

But I gotta say Comcast, while it has its "stories", it's pretty good with not getting in my business. But if they happen to impose this, and there is no ability to turn it off on their site for individual customers ("Opt-out feature"), then I switch.


DotMac4
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reply to openbox9

Huh? They INJECT the code into GOOGLES CODE! On planet earth that is certainly pissing with someone else's work.

Of course the ISPs think they own the Internet and the cable shills will excuse ANYTHING they do.


expert007

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Buffalo, NY
reply to openbox9

When we as a company design a website, what happens under that domain is copyrighted, we go to great lengths to ensure that when someone accesses our domain, they see exactly what we want them to see.

How'd you like to be on the phone with a friend talking about good restaurants while someone from the telco listens in and randomly starts suggesting restaurants that advertise with them? Its no different.



DotMac4
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It would be different if Rogers ran, with customer consent, an outside popup program that regularly popped up messages obtained on it's own (eg a popup that runs in the sys tray).

It is a dangerous prescendent when an ISP goes so far as to deep inspecting, intercepting, then CHANGING the actual copyrighted HTML of a content creator for their own purposes. It would be like Borders Books, inserting full page ads (attaching them to the binding just like all the other pages) into the middle of books they sell.

There would be little (aside from copyright law) stopping an ISP from taking the top 1000 websites and injecting HTML banners, not javacript which is easily blocked) into the top 1/2 of all those pages.



PhoenixDown
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reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

Back to my original comment. Save your money, or take it elsewhere. That type of action will be what gets ISPs' attentions the quickest. Whining in a forum or hoping for some inept "net neutrality" law to be passed, won't drive ISPs to change their actions.
I can't take my business elsewhere -- like many, I have only one choice for a broadband connection.


DotMac4
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Unfortunately where one ISP goes, many follow.


patcat88

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reply to Rob

said by Rob:

Oh for sure. The minute my ISP (Comcast) imposes this, I will be switching.
To what, what are you going to do if AT&T/Verizon/Embarq are doing this? FCC killed line sharing.


Rob
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said by patcat88:

said by Rob:

Oh for sure. The minute my ISP (Comcast) imposes this, I will be switching.
To what, what are you going to do if AT&T/Verizon/Embarq are doing this? FCC killed line sharing.
Even if I did switch, I could only switch to AT&T since they ripped out the copper in my area and replaced it with Fiber.

When the time comes, then I will decide. But I doubt Comcast would do it.

patcat88

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reply to DotMac4

said by DotMac4:

They should be legislated into not pissing with other peoples' works. What is next, telcos going to have every call you make start only after a 10 second ad spot?
Good idea, quick, someone get a business patent.