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Re: [TWC] Pricing model changing soon

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MacLeech
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Power Is unlimited & free

wind power /solar power at lest i will know that there is free power for the next 5 Billion years
Never heard of installation and maintenance costs have you?

Beyond that, what happens when it's cloudy for days from the storm that blew over your windmill?


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reply to bop75
said by bop75 :

"They are apparently trying to change their billing model to a "pay per GigaByte" model. I don't have "unlimited" electric; I pay "per kilowatt"."

Which is fine. A few points, electric was never in the 50+ years I've been on the planet ever unlimited. RR was from day one. If an electric company had been unlimited and now tried changing to Kilowatt per hour and the rest didn't, the same thing would happen.

Don't piss down my neck and tell me it's raining.
Power Is unlimited & free

wind power /solar power at lest i will know that there is free power for the next 5 Billion years
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Mele20
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reply to Spencer67
I like Net Meter better because it is FREE.


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Awsome, thank you. DU Meter is very nice!


Karl Bode
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reply to saber11
If any users in the Beaumont, Texas market see this implemented, please e-mail me (Karl at DSLReports dot com)...I'd love to see how it's presented to you.

I still wonder if the kickback didn't result in the cancellation of this project.


MacLeech
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Does anyone have a link to a FREE program that monitors bandwidth usage, Im just curious to see what Im using, I download Linux Distros every once in a while and play EverQuest 2 daily. Thank you in advance.
DU Meter:
»www.dumeter.com/
NetMeter:
»www.metal-machine.de/readerror/
NetStatLive:
»www.analogx.com/contents/downloa···/nsl.htm
NetPerSec:
»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1735,00.asp
Crystal Internet Meter (free trial):
»www.casdk.com/prod/cim/?lref=www_frontpage


Spencer67

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Does anyone have a link to a FREE program that monitors bandwidth usage, Im just curious to see what Im using, I download Linux Distros every once in a while and play EverQuest 2 daily. Thank you in advance.


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I haven't read through every page of this thread, but I'm curious as what the new rate structure will be and when will it be implemented?
This isn't another Chicken Little thread is it?
I hope it IS. I'd be quite pleased to be proven wrong by TW in this thread.
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reply to saber11
I haven't read through every page of this thread, but I'm curious as what the new rate structure will be and when will it be implemented?
This isn't another Chicken Little thread is it?


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Count me as another one who would leave and never look back the minute they implement this plan.


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said by tiger72 See Profile :

If they went to PURE by-the-byte billing, i'd probably be fine with that. Uncapped 100mbps with a 100GB data limit at x $ per month, and a 200GB data limit at x $ per month, etc... But charging for capped speeds on top of a data limit is a step backwards.
What do you think of this:
»www.cox.com/policy/limitations.asp
60Gig Cap on it's premier plan. I'll garner in the areas of which their is competition there will be no caps, nor will it be inforced.
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NYC Girl
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reply to saber11
I wonder if the monthly price will go DOWN if you don't use any bandwith for that month, I am sure NOT.


MacLeech
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reply to tiger72
said by tiger72 See Profile :

If they went to PURE by-the-byte billing, i'd probably be fine with that. Uncapped 100mbps with a 100GB data limit at x $ per month, and a 200GB data limit at x $ per month, etc... But charging for capped speeds on top of a data limit is a step backwards.
What do you think of this:
»www.cox.com/policy/limitations.asp

Baseline

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reply to saber11
I can't wait to see some solid pricing and spec info from Beaumont. This threads size will probably double within a day.


LionelTrain1

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Another link to the TWC pricing!

»www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/12596.cfm


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reply to MacLeech
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said by kfsutops See Profile :

And nobody has still answered (which I guess you wouldn't know) whether they are going stop all the bs ads/spam that use of bandwidth.
No, but they provide security software to help control that don't they? CA Internet Security Suite 2007

Besides I can't see ads or spam taking up that much bandwidth unless your computer was hijacked or a spam bot. What do you think they use, a few MBs a day if you're surfing on an unprotected setup?

Personally, I get few pop-ups or spam... then again I use Firefox with AdBlock, a router with a custom block list, and Gmail's webmail interface.
Depending on your software, the images and other spam/ad content is still downloaded (thus still using your bandwidth), but simply not displayed on your monitor. That really doesn't help much.
said by hobgoblin See Profile :

"The problem I have is that posts from the RR boys being that you "must" be pirating something if you need more. That's a ridiculous statement/point."

Maybe those people are using this forum and its posters as a source.

I have been trying to point out its the top 5% that reside here and many boast about how much they can download.

Cant have it both ways.

Hob
You've also been conveniently ignoring the arguments to the contrary which refer to many other websites who's non-bandwidth-loving users were still up in arms about this plan.

I find it funny that you say "Cant have it both ways", while defending Time Warner wanting to have it both ways by charging on the front end and the back end.

If they went to PURE by-the-byte billing, i'd probably be fine with that. Uncapped 100mbps with a 100GB data limit at x $ per month, and a 200GB data limit at x $ per month, etc... But charging for capped speeds on top of a data limit is a step backwards.
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reply to kfsutops
"The problem I have is that posts from the RR boys being that you "must" be pirating something if you need more. That's a ridiculous statement/point."

Maybe those people are using this forum and its posters as a source.

I have been trying to point out its the top 5% that reside here and many boast about how much they can download.

Cant have it both ways.

Hob
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MacLeech
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said by kfsutops See Profile :

And nobody has still answered (which I guess you wouldn't know) whether they are going stop all the bs ads/spam that use of bandwidth.
No, but they provide security software to help control that don't they? CA Internet Security Suite 2007

Besides I can't see ads or spam taking up that much bandwidth unless your computer was hijacked or a spam bot. What do you think they use, a few MBs a day if you're surfing on an unprotected setup?

Personally, I get few pop-ups or spam... then again I use Firefox with AdBlock, a router with a custom block list, and Gmail's webmail interface.

In comparison to other "metered" utilities, does the water company pay for your extra water use if you have a leak? Does the power company pay for your extra power use if for all of those appliances that never turn off? Do cell phone companies pay for all of those political calls, telemarketers, and wrong numbers?


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said by MacLeech See Profile :

If you expect to download more, pay for a higher tier, you'll at least get a higher allowance and probably higher speeds.

Who knows what the prices are though....
I can agree to that point.

The problem I have is that posts from the RR boys being that you "must" be pirating something if you need more. That's a ridiculous statement/point.

And nobody has still answered (which I guess you wouldn't know) whether they are going stop all the bs ads/spam that use of bandwidth.
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