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HeelYeah
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Raleigh, NC
[TWC] How do you obtain a new IP address?

I have been IP banned on my favorite sports forum. How do I get a new IP address. I promise to be good when I go back there.


Dominokat
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change the mac address.
that is, change your ethernet card if your modem plugs straight into a computer. or change the router, if you use one.

why were you banned in the first place?
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djrobx

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Most routers have a "mac clone" feature that will essentially do what you want with minimal effort. Additionally, many ethernet cards have a MAC address option in the the advanced settings tab in the network settings that can let you set a new MAC. I would probably take my existing MAC address and modify it by a digit.

Remember to power cycle your cablemodem after you change the MAC, or you will get no IP at all.

Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI

reply to HeelYeah
I got banned by IP for ripping by a Shoutcast radio station playing in Winamp. It was my favorite station. My Linsky router would not let me use the mac clone feature to get a new IP. I cannot do it on the ethernet card settings either. So, I had to just wait out the ban which was 30 days. I never ripped that station again.

Your IP will probably be changed if you shut down the computer for four days.
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SkellBasher
Yes Sorto, I'll take my Prozac

join:2000-10-22
North Tonawanda, NY
said by Mele20 See Profile :

My Linsky router
That word never stops being funny.

Mele20
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Hilo, HI
LOL....yeah...that is funny..I try to catch it when I transpose the letters like that..but it slips by sometimes.


A Non Name

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reply to HeelYeah
It would be impossible for someone to detect you ripping a shoutcast stream. Your excuse is poor. In other words...YOU'RE LYING. I personally don't care why you were banned, but here's how to change it through windows.

Unplug Modem for 5 minutes.
Release your ip: ipconfig /release
Change your MAC address for your NIC.
Renew your ip: ipconfig /renew
Plug Modem back in.

Presto, IP changeo.

Mele20
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Hilo, HI


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You replied to someone else but I think you meant to reply to me?

It is possible to see someone ripping from a shoutcast radio station. There are many discussions on help boards for whatever software you use for ripping about this. This particular station was (maybe still is I don't know currently) at the time it happened notorious for banning IP's for ripping. They even had a a long diatribe at their website about how much they hated users who ripped and they said they ban the first time for 30 days and the next offense the ban is permanent for that IP. They also went to the boards for ripping software and had huge, nasty arguments about how they hated ripping and would stomp it out.

I knew nothing about their hatred before I ripped ...it was only after I got banned that I found the boards and others talking about this and learned this particular station was rabid about ripping (I would choose the station most likely to go ballastic).

This happened about two - three years ago so I don't know maybe things have changed with that station since then, etc. I have not ripped any stations in about two years. I did rip some after that happened but never again tried to do it with that station and it was the only one I really wanted to rip so I haven't ripped in a long time. Perhaps, things have changed but why you would call me a liar I don't know other than you are trolling and want to stir up trouble?

EDIT: You don't seem to read very well. I already stated that I cannot change the MAC address on the Nic. The ONLY way I can get a new IP is to shut down the computers for at least four days.
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Matt
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reply to HeelYeah
It doesn't matter if it's 4 days or .4 attoseconds, the only way you'll get a new IP is if you release the IP address and someone else grabs it before you renew, by changing the MAC address of the network device, or if both the DHCP server (CMTS), Cable Modem, and the device requesting the DHCP address are all power cycled, clearing the DHCP host table cache. Even then, one of the network devices may store the information in non-volatile RAM.

You'll NEVER get a new IP address if you're behind a router by releasing and renewing your machine's IP. You'll have to release and renew the address on the router's WAN port.

The easiest way is to change the MAC address assigned to the network device, then release and renew the IP address.

Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI

You are wrong. Leave on a trip for three nights. Shut down your computers before you go but pause the modem only and do not shut down the router. When you get back and boot up you will have a new IP EVERY TIME. Oceanic told us years ago that this was the only thing that would work reliably. Of course, we get new IPs every few days now anyway so this question is sort of moot. At the time I really wanted to change mine, we were getting new IPs only about once a year but that has changed back to how was when I first got RR.
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"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason


Rombus
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join:2007-04-11
Columbus, OH

reply to Mele20
Re: [TWC] How do you obtain a new IP address?

said by Mele20 See Profile :

You are wrong. Leave on a trip for three nights. Shut down your computers before you go but pause the modem only and do not shut down the router. When you get back and boot up you will have a new IP EVERY TIME. Oceanic told us years ago that this was the only thing that would work reliably. Of course, we get new IPs every few days now anyway so this question is sort of moot. At the time I really wanted to change mine, we were getting new IPs only about once a year but that has changed back to how was when I first got RR.
Ok, before this starts some flame war, More than likely what works for one division may not work for another one. It depends on how the DHCP servers are setup for that division. I know in NEO its setup the same as MattE has stated.


Matt
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said by Rombus See Profile :

said by Mele20 See Profile :

You are wrong. Leave on a trip for three nights. Shut down your computers before you go but pause the modem only and do not shut down the router. When you get back and boot up you will have a new IP EVERY TIME. Oceanic told us years ago that this was the only thing that would work reliably. Of course, we get new IPs every few days now anyway so this question is sort of moot. At the time I really wanted to change mine, we were getting new IPs only about once a year but that has changed back to how was when I first got RR.
Ok, before this starts some flame war, More than likely what works for one division may not work for another one. It depends on how the DHCP servers are setup for that division. I know in NEO its setup the same as MattE has stated.
The DHCP protocol is defined by an RFC, so it is not different from division to division. If they were able to control things like how the client renews/release an address, it would break the protocol.

»www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2131.html

DHCP works in a very reliable, fixed, repeatable manner.


Soujiro Seta
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join:2003-05-29
Santa Monica, CA

getting new ip address? well since your connection is DHCP it would change in a specific period of time not unless you requested for a static IP address. eventhough you have a router like linksys etc... the router settings is set to obtain ip address automatically so therefore whatever ip that RR gave you it would still be reflected in your router. for forums wherein you access it everyday the server reads your public ip not your private ip address. my advice is better wait for the DHCP client lease time or just wait for it to be renewed.
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MacLeech
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SoCal

said by Soujiro Seta See Profile :

getting new ip address? well since your connection is DHCP it would change in a specific period of time
Actually not.... DHCP servers base the issued IP on the MAC address it sees connected to the network, so unless the MAC changes or several things within the network are reset you probably won't get a new one.

kklier

join:2004-02-04
Durham, NC
reply to HeelYeah
in the past I have been told by TWC to unplug the router for 24 hours and I would get a new DHCP Address...seems kinda long IMO, but I guess it is related to their lease times.


braynes
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join:2005-03-14
Waterville, ME

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reply to Mele20
"Shut down your computers before you go but pause the modem only"

Hello mele20 You lost me a little, what do you mean by Pause the modem.

thanks
Bruce

edit:spelling


MacLeech
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SoCal


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said by braynes See Profile :

"Shut down your computers before you go but pause the modem only"

Hello mele20 You lost me a little, what do you mean by Pause the modem.

thanks
Bruce

edit:spelling
Some modems like Motorolas and RCAs have, on/off or "pause" buttons on them which only disconnect the USB and ethernet connections but don't actually turn off the modem.

Since the equipment connected to the modem can't contact the DHCP server, the IP lease expires. Given enough time the DHCP server will run out of open IPs and reissue his.

Mele20
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Hilo, HI

said by MacLeech See Profile :

Some modems like Motorolas and RCAs have, on/off or "pause" buttons on them which only disconnect the USB and ethernet connections but don't actually turn off the modem.

Since the equipment connected to the modem can't contact the DHCP server, the IP lease expires. Given enough time the DHCP server will run out of open IPs and reissue his.
Yes, and this trick works best if you are using TW's lease time which in this division is currently 24 hours (was only 12 hours when I got RR years ago). I have the router handle DHCP and I have the lease time set for 7 days in the router so I would need to change that if I was going somewhere for four days and wanted a new lease when I got back. I set it for 7 days mostly because I hate seeing constant errors in Event Viewer regarding dhcp lease...this particular Linksy is notorious for having problems handling dhcp (it's an older router ...newer ones are better with this).
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"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason


MacLeech
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join:2001-07-14
SoCal

said by Mele20 See Profile :

said by MacLeech See Profile :

Some modems like Motorolas and RCAs have, on/off or "pause" buttons on them which only disconnect the USB and ethernet connections but don't actually turn off the modem.

Since the equipment connected to the modem can't contact the DHCP server, the IP lease expires. Given enough time the DHCP server will run out of open IPs and reissue his.
Yes, and this trick works best if you are using TW's lease time which in this division is currently 24 hours (was only 12 hours when I got RR years ago). I have the router handle DHCP and I have the lease time set for 7 days in the router so I would need to change that if I was going somewhere for four days and wanted a new lease when I got back. I set it for 7 days mostly because I hate seeing constant errors in Event Viewer regarding dhcp lease...this particular Linksy is notorious for having problems handling dhcp (it's an older router ...newer ones are better with this).
Since you're using a router... what you do with your computers' DHCP leases shouldn't have anything to do with getting a new public IP for your router from TWC. Your computers aren't even communicating with the DHCP server from TWC, the router is.
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