HenryNettles
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| [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? »www.crn.com/software/206102246
After months of speculation, Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) on Monday will release Windows Vista service pack 1 to manufacturing, according to a Friday report in the Malaysian hardware enthusiast blog Tech ARP. OEMs will also receive Windows Vista Service Pack 1 next week, according to the report.
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gate1975mlm
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2 edits | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? What I want to know is when can we order a Vista SP1 replacment DVD from Microsoft?
I would much rather do a clean install with SP1 already on the DVD. | |
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howie
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? said by gate1975mlm  :What I want to know is when can we order a Vista SP1 replacment DVD from Microsoft? I would much rather do a clean install with SP1 already on the DVD. I'm confused... Do you mean an entire new OS or just the Service Pack? You'd have to purchase Vista all over again if you meant the former. From what I hear, you cannot slipstream SP1 into Vista so in any case, you cannot do a clean install of SP1 unless you purchase Vista all over again with SP1 integrated.
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gate1975mlm
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1 edit | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? said by howie :said by gate1975mlm :What I want to know is when can we order a Vista SP1 replacment DVD from Microsoft? I would much rather do a clean install with SP1 already on the DVD. I'm confused... Do you mean an entire new OS or just the Service Pack? You'd have to purchase Vista all over again if you meant the former. From what I hear, you cannot slipstream SP1 into Vista so in any case, you cannot do a clean install of SP1 unless you purchase Vista all over again with SP1 integrated. Well if my Vista dvd gets damaged they will replace it for a small fee. And I will ask them to send me one with SP1 on it 
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? said by gate1975mlm :said by howie :said by gate1975mlm :What I want to know is when can we order a Vista SP1 replacment DVD from Microsoft? I would much rather do a clean install with SP1 already on the DVD. I'm confused... Do you mean an entire new OS or just the Service Pack? You'd have to purchase Vista all over again if you meant the former. From what I hear, you cannot slipstream SP1 into Vista so in any case, you cannot do a clean install of SP1 unless you purchase Vista all over again with SP1 integrated. Well if my Vista dvd gets damaged they will replace it for a small fee. And I will ask them to send me one with SP1 on it I did the samething with XP. Ohhhhhhhhhhhh....LOL Ok
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? said by howie :Ohhhhhhhhhhhh....LOL Ok Good luck to the Giants | |
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| OT Thanks... everyone's picking the Pats but everyone also picked the Cowboys and Packers... I feel pretty good about the G-Men in this one as they're the away team and they already have 10 road wins in a row. GO G-MEN!
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| said by gate1975mlm :said by howie :said by gate1975mlm :What I want to know is when can we order a Vista SP1 replacment DVD from Microsoft? I would much rather do a clean install with SP1 already on the DVD. I'm confused... Do you mean an entire new OS or just the Service Pack? You'd have to purchase Vista all over again if you meant the former. From what I hear, you cannot slipstream SP1 into Vista so in any case, you cannot do a clean install of SP1 unless you purchase Vista all over again with SP1 integrated. Well if my Vista dvd gets damaged they will replace it for a small fee. And I will ask them to send me one with SP1 on it I did the samething with XP. As long as it's a Retail Version of Vista, MS will replace it, if it's a OEM/DSP, they will not replace it, you will have to buy one, or order a Vista SP1 CD from MS after SP1 is released.
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| I don't have to worry about loosing my installation of Vista Premium because when I bought my Compaq Presario SR5023WM it cam with a 250GB hard witch 8GBs of it is used as a recovery partition. When I first turned it on it gave me the second option of backing up the partition on to separate DVDs as a recovery partition setup. So I have nothing to fear. | |
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howie
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1 edit | said by HenryNettles :» www.crn.com/software/206102246After months of speculation, Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) on Monday will release Windows Vista service pack 1 to manufacturing, according to a Friday report in the Malaysian hardware enthusiast blog Tech ARP. OEMs will also receive Windows Vista Service Pack 1 next week, according to the report.
For anyone interested, here are the release notes for SP1:
»download.microsoft.com/download/···otes.htm
[EDIT] These seem to be for the RC but I'm sure they apply to the final as well.
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So if I'm running OEM/pre-installed Vista, there is a big chance that my OS will stop working. | |
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Blueghost
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3 edits | »www.informationweek.com/manageme···06103605
Microsoft said Monday that it has released the first major update for its Windows Vista operating system to manufacturing, meaning the software will be ready for general distribution in the coming weeks.
Vista SP1 will be available in mid-March through Microsoft's online Windows Update service and through the download center on Microsoft.com. »www.pcpro.co.uk/news/162381/driv···k-1.html
Microsoft has announced that Vista Service Pack 1 has been released to manufacturing - but it's being held back from public release until mid-March.
Microsoft claims a series of driver issues is preventing the company from offering the Service Pack for download immediately.
As a result, Microsoft will now tweak Windows Update so that systems running the faulty drivers don't download Service Pack 1. "While we know that most customers who update from Windows Vista to SP1 will NOT be affected, our approach is to improve the experience for all our customers," says Nash.
"To do this, we will begin making SP1 available through Windows Update in mid-March, giving us time to work with some of our hardware partners to make adjustments to the installation process for the affected drivers."
Microsoft will then start delivering SP1 to Vista users running automatic updates in mid-April, but once again, those people with the faulty drivers will miss out. "As updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from getting Service Pack 1. | |
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Pole883
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BillRoland
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clubs: | Too bad it doesn't look like they plan on releasing it for public consumption for another 6 weeks.
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1 edit | Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) was released to manufacturing today and will start being available to customers in March,
The offical release of RTM
»blogs.technet.com/windowsserver/
»windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windo···ult.aspx
»www.microsoft.com/presspass/feat···008.mspx
Here's the timing for SP1 availability for current Windows Vista users:
* In mid-March, we will release Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Update (in English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese) and to the download center on microsoft.com. Customers who visit Windows Update can choose to install Service Pack 1. If Windows Update determines that the system has one of the drivers we know to be problematic, then Windows Update will not offer SP1. Since we know that some customers may want to update to SP1 anyhow, the download center will allow anyone who wants to install SP1 to do so.
* In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically. As updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a good experience.
* The remaining languages will RTM in April.
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Pole883
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Schenectady, NY | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? Thank you Nick!! | |
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Seattle, WA | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? Vista SP1 isn't available on Technet yet, but Server 2008 is! | |
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cjwarner
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? I installed SP1 to a Vista desktop this past Friday. No problems whatsoever.
I used a cmd file that changed the registry to accept updates from the official MS Windows Updates site. After that registry adjustment, I needed two prerequisite smaller updates first (I hear some need 3 updates). Then after those, SP1 showed up and I waited for it d/l. Then I told it to install. No issues. I'm good to go. | |
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? said by cjwarner :I installed SP1 to a Vista desktop this past Friday. No problems whatsoever. I used a cmd file that changed the registry to accept updates from the official MS Windows Updates site. After that registry adjustment, I needed two prerequisite smaller updates first (I hear some need 3 updates). Then after those, SP1 showed up and I waited for it d/l. Then I told it to install. No issues. I'm good to go. That is only a Beta. | |
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howie
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? said by Siko :said by cjwarner :I installed SP1 to a Vista desktop this past Friday. No problems whatsoever. I used a cmd file that changed the registry to accept updates from the official MS Windows Updates site. After that registry adjustment, I needed two prerequisite smaller updates first (I hear some need 3 updates). Then after those, SP1 showed up and I waited for it d/l. Then I told it to install. No issues. I'm good to go. That is only a Beta. The last release, RCR2, 6001.18000.080118-1840 is the RTM and can be downloaded/installed using the registry WU trick.
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cjwarner
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| said by Siko :said by cjwarner :I installed SP1 to a Vista desktop this past Friday. No problems whatsoever. I used a cmd file that changed the registry to accept updates from the official MS Windows Updates site. After that registry adjustment, I needed two prerequisite smaller updates first (I hear some need 3 updates). Then after those, SP1 showed up and I waited for it d/l. Then I told it to install. No issues. I'm good to go. That is only a Beta. Obviously, you haven't successfully done it.
It is NOT a Beta. When it's complete, it most definitely says Service Pack 1. | |
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Chester, NJ | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? So, where does one find information about this registry trick??
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kringles
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4 edits | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? @robhouston;
Here is a link for info on the registry hack, even though it mentions 'Windows Vista SP1 RC Refresh 2' what you will get is SP1 RTM (KB936330), they are essentialy identical except for name;
»forums.slickdeals.net/showthread···t=729204
As an alternate to the registry hack here is a location that gives instructions for installing Vista SP1 RTM final via download from Microsoft (I think you may have to register to gain access);
»windowsforums.org/?showtopic=154
Note that the KB937287 and KB938371 updates are now being made available via windows update. So after you run Windows update (may have to repeat several times) to ensure the these are installed (and a third update(KB935509) for Ultimate users) you only need to download the Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (x86, KB936330), 532.94 MB and script files mentioned. Then after copying/extracting to the C:/VistaSP1 folder run steps 1 and 7 to 10 in the 'Installing' section.
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howie
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2 edits | said by cjwarner :said by Siko :said by cjwarner :I installed SP1 to a Vista desktop this past Friday. No problems whatsoever. I used a cmd file that changed the registry to accept updates from the official MS Windows Updates site. After that registry adjustment, I needed two prerequisite smaller updates first (I hear some need 3 updates). Then after those, SP1 showed up and I waited for it d/l. Then I told it to install. No issues. I'm good to go. That is only a Beta. Obviously, you haven't successfully done it. It is NOT a Beta. When it's complete, it most definitely says Service Pack 1. No beta or RC designation and no expiring evaluation version watermark. I'd say it's the real thing.
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HolmanGT
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Saint George, UT | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? One great big DITTO for what Howie said.
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Irish Shark
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| I uninstalled the last release of SP1 about a month ago. Slow boot, Desktop going black after login, flashing on then going black again before getting a stable desktop etc .... Uninstalled it and all was fine.
So I thought that I would try this version ... same thing. I am wondering if it is really worth it to apply this service pack.
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4 edits | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? Irish,
I have two machines in SP1 (thanks to Howie) and on one of them I noticed the exact problems you described.
"Slow boot, Desktop going black after login, flashing on then going black again before getting a stable desktop"
I ran JV16 reg cleaner and compactor and the problem is gone.
I did all this last night and tested it several times, but just to make sure I am not leading you down the path... I just fired it up from a cold start and the problem(s) you described are gone. Might be worth a try. Also work/not work would you let me and the others know.
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howie
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| said by Irish Shark :I uninstalled the last release of SP1 about a month ago. Slow boot, Desktop going black after login, flashing on then going black again before getting a stable desktop etc .... Uninstalled it and all was fine. So I thought that I would try this version ... same thing. I am wondering if it is really worth it to apply this service pack. Sorry to hear that... I did a "fresh" Vista install and then immediately applied the Service Pack (standalone). No issues like you're seeing but perhaps HolmanGT 's suggestion may help you. Good luck!
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howie
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| One nice thing is that you only need to download 1 important update after doing a fresh Vista SP1 install. (Defender definitions).
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? said by HolmanGT :Has anyone noticed any significant improvements in SP1? Actually I haven't notice anything that seems different good or bad. The biggest improvements I have seen are that my laptop wakes from sleep mode faster; and if you have UAC control on for security, you get less "ok to proceed" prompts to get a new application installed and running
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1 edit | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? TK,
Well so far so good. I wouldn't have noticed either of the ones you mention.
Sleep mode: I have such a bad taste in my mouth from previous OS versions that I don't even attempt to use "Sleep Mode" any more.
And the UAC I found so obnoxious that I used TweakUAC early on to put that puppy in what TweakUAC calls quiet mode. What a God send that was. It even received usage recommendations form Microsoft.
OK who's next to step up and tell us something exciting - OK it doesn't have to be exciting just some improvement like waking up from sleep mode - which is a very good thing. | |
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BillRoland
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? Probably the steady climb up to perfect 10's now on the Performance and Reliability monitor. I've not had an application hang or crash since I installed it. The system runs smooth as glass.
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HolmanGT
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? BillRoland,
"Performance and Reliability" - Well so far I think I would have to go along with that one.
No crashes or unexpected mayhem on my system either (Knock on wood).
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dellsweig
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Campbell Hall, NY | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? Just did 2 machines with the WU method for SP1 RTM - one Ultimate and one Home premium
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howie
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1 edit | I was able to get my hands on a DVD image of Vista including SP1 and do a clean install. No faster way to install a Service Pack (although re-installing all my stuff took some time).
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? Decided to uninstall SP1. That was fine. But I could not delete the two KB updates, so I just started at the beginning of the scripts.
How long does the Part 1 take to load? KB938371.
This thing has been going for 2.5 hours. 
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takeahike
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1 edit | said by howie :I was able to get my hands on a DVD image of Vista including SP1 and do a clean install. No faster way to install a Service Pack (although re-installing all my stuff took some time). Howie: Did you have a problem justifying a whole new install? The service pack probably takes a little longer than the full install (ironic, huh?) but re-customizing your system had to take ions.
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howie
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| Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? Yeah, I probably just wasted my time doing it this way but I wanted to make sure the freshly burned Vista SP1 DVD was OK.
I don't recommend it for everyone, though, as re-installing 20GB worth of programs takes a lot of time. It is ironic that the SP1-only install takes 40 minutes or more compared to about 25 when installed along with the OS. Go figure...
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dellsweig
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Campbell Hall, NY | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? Its on windows update - you just need to run a small registry tweak to get it | |
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dellsweig
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Campbell Hall, NY | Re: [Vista] Vista SP1 RTM on Monday, February 4th ???? All of what - it is a 10 line batch file you run, then do a windows update - thats it | |
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