 veloslaveGeek For GodPremium
join:2003-07-11
Pleasant Hill, CA | ADSL2, bonding, market areas, CLEC and kitchen sink Instead of starting a few threads.... 
I was wondering if the new ASDL2 service needs to have your own equipment in the CO? I think I read that already. I Was thinking that must be pretty interesting to sit back and think... "where do we go next?" now that you are starting to pwn Santa Rosa. 
I was reading up a little in the blog »dane.users.sonic.net/blog/ on the bonding stuff and frankly... that gives me much geek desire. Is that going to be something that will be affordable to the mere mortal... or at least a geek willing to pay more than he really should to have the big pipe?
Your CLEC good for the whole state right? You can now make the move on any city you want... say like Pleasant Hill for example? Hmmm... maybe I should also keep the name Martinez getting some air time since I have a Martinez prefix even though I live right over the border in Martinez. That being the case (I have 925-228 prefix from Martinez) does that mean that my services come from the Martinez CO even though I live in Pleasant Hill? I live about 5 miles away from the Martinez CO but I sure get great speeds here with my Extreme account.
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 DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | Yup - for each area we're serving, we've got to lease space in the CO and build our own racks and populate them with power equipment, DSLAMs and routers. The cost is roughly $50,000 to $100,000 per central office.
In the near term we're building many of the Sonoma County central offices:
Santa Rosa (two offices)
Petaluma
Sebastopol
Healdsburg
Windsor
Forestville (tiny town, but well situated CO and good competitive situation)
Notably the Cotati, Rohnert Park and Sonoma COs are not on this list. The reason is that the COs are far, far away from the population centers, so even if we're in them, there are very few people who would be within range of the product.
All of San Francisco is also in the road map - nine COs there.
Then, a bit of a surprise - we've completed our analysis and found that Santa Cruz, Berkeley and Albany are all very good potential markets, and we'll be building these as well.
The sum of this will bring us to 20 COs, and probably keep us busy for nine months or so. After that, we'll see how it's going and make decisions from there!
As for pricing of the bonded product, all of the product pricing is still being designed. The business product pricing will come out first, likely in the next week or so. The consumer ADSL2+ products will probably have pricing released in 30 days, give or take.
-Dane |
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I'm happy to see Santa Cruz on the list of towns that will be getting an upgrade.
Will this be both COs in Santa Cruz or just one of them?
If I can I will be signing up the day this goes live.  |
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 JohnInSJPremium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA | reply to veloslave
And some in san jose? 
Maybe phase II.
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DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | reply to Forever
said by Forever :I'm happy to see Santa Cruz on the list of towns that will be getting an upgrade. Will this be both COs in Santa Cruz or just one of them? If I can I will be signing up the day this goes live. Both Santa Cruz COs are planned for deployment.
Sorry, San Jose isn't on the list - it's sprawling, and thus difficult to serve economically.
-Dane |
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Thanks for the replay Dane. 
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JohnInSJPremium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA Reviews:
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said by DaneJasper:Sorry, San Jose isn't on the list - it's sprawling, and thus difficult to serve economically. I know. Currently your offering is "better" then comcast, which is faster yet with invisible caps, but not static IPs (unless you pay some crazy business tier price for 1 static ip) and obviously the same speed as AT&T, since it's their loop you're selling me.
I guess I'll have to move to Santa Cruz. Finally, a good reason to move!
Yeah, not. Ah well, once again bypassed by the 21st century because I live in the heart of silicon valley.
Well, at least I got to help fund you when you were just getting started
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How about the CO in cordelia??? |
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said by DaneJasper:..... Santa Rosa (two offices) Petaluma Sebastopol Healdsburg Windsor Forestville (tiny town, but well situated CO and good competitive situation) .... Is that in order installation? i.e. how long for windsor?
The folks in the boonies of Fo-ville will be lovin it! |
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DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | The order is likely to be Sonoma County and East Bay cities all pretty much around the same time, then SF and Santa Cruz to follow. Each one takes time to deploy, integrate and test, so it won't be all at once, and the specific per-city order isn't known yet.
-Dane |
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DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | reply to dodgemedia
said by dodgemedia:How about the CO in cordelia??? Based only upon the overhead photo at maps.google.com, I would say that Cordelia is not the type of location that's likely to see these products. Sorry!
The criteria are density, customer proximity to the central office (which is sometimes related to density, but other times affected by really odd telco cable routing), and our current customer count in the market.
Berkeley, Albany and Santa Cruz are all examples of markets with very high density and low cable lengths - the reason is the same - both are sandwiched between the bay or ocean and the mountains. This creates a dense population center without any sprawl.
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veloslaveGeek For GodPremium
join:2003-07-11
Pleasant Hill, CA | reply to veloslave
What other company can you have cool conversations with the big guy himself on a regular basis? Sure is refreshing to see such candidness instead of the usual smoke and mirror BS you get from every other company out there.
I don't know about Santa Cruz John... I think I would go with Santa Rosa for the digit change... fat pipes and crash the Sonic office parties
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DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | said by veloslave:I don't know about Santa Cruz John... I think I would go with Santa Rosa for the digit change... fat pipes and crash the Sonic office parties We had one tonight - took 150 people out to see "Jumper". Not a great flick, but it was fun.
I try to limit the BS as much as possible.
-Dane |
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JohnInSJPremium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA Reviews:
·PHONE POWER
·Comcast
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said by veloslave:I don't know about Santa Cruz John... I think I would go with Santa Rosa for the digit change... fat pipes and crash the Sonic office parties Yeah, but there are crazier people in Cruz...
Its frustrating to see stuff get rolled out around you...
Hey, at least comcrap upgraded our cable service a few years ago from the old A/B system they must have wired up in the 70s. Woohoo!
Good luck with the upgrades. They sound fantastic. |
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 bobrkYou kids get offa my lawnPremium
join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
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said by DaneJasper:Sorry, San Jose isn't on the list - it's sprawling, and thus difficult to serve economically. Heh. Downtown isn't.
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JohnInSJPremium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA Reviews:
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| said by bobrk:said by DaneJasper:Sorry, San Jose isn't on the list - it's sprawling, and thus difficult to serve economically. Heh. Downtown isn't. Yep, but I think we'll not see it from sonic, sadly. Really bad to have to hope AT&T has a usable offering, isn't it. I just cannot bring myself to consider the horror of going to AT&T.
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DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | reply to veloslave
We got a staff member home up with pair bonded ADSL2+ today. Up and running at 30Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up, at a bit over a mile of loop length. Very cool to see!
-Dane |
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DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | New blog entry on this topic:
»corp.sonic.net/blog/2008/02/22/3···s-house/
-Dane |
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billern
join:2003-01-22
Santa Rosa, CA | reply to DaneJasper
said by DaneJasper:We got a staff member home up with pair bonded ADSL2+ today. Up and running at 30Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up, at a bit over a mile of loop length. Very cool to see! 
I'm speechless. |
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This is pretty exciting Dane I hope everything goes great for you guys. If you can say, what do you think are the chances of us Sonic customers in the SF Peninsula seeing this in the near future?
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