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Grail Knight
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join:2003-05-31 | reply to Mele20
Re: IPCop in VMWare: A How-to
How much did you pay for VM Workstation Marilyn? | |
Mele20
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said by Bubba17  :said by genewitch :1) install VMWare (preferably player as well) Not to change the tenor of this thread over to VMWare, but a quick question about it, please. At the VMWare site, there exist numerous product offerings. It's "VMWare Workstation" that is targeted for home/SOHO use? If so, it's priced at $189.00. The "VMWare player" is free? Is there a free VMWare offering that I just overlooked? Or, is purchase required to use "VMWare"? Are there huge differences between VMWare and the free MS Virtual Machine that make VMWare worth the purchase? Thanks. The 2 major differences are so major for anyone using VMWare to test software and/or so that they don't need to worry about getting a virus because they wanted to walk on the "wild side" for a bit, etc. that I would never consider using the Server.
The Server runs all the time as a Service which makes it potentially open to security issues that Workstation running in User mode doesn't have. Plus, the Server cannot do MULTIPLE snapshots which are ESSENTIAL for those of us who use VMwareWorkstation for beta testing and so that we don't have to worry about getting malware if we are a bit adventuresome in our web surfing. Plus, with Workstation there are not the Security problems that exist with Server running all the time as a service. A VMwareWorkstation computer runs when you boot it up and you shut it down when you are through and that is it. It runs when you want to use it and runs independently of the Host which is not the case with the Server.
You also cannot clone Server machines (unless you pay VMWare for extra software to do that). Cloning is easy and simple in WorkStation. So, with no cloning, no multiple snapshots...for my purposes Server is worthless. You also cannot do shared folder between Host and a virtual machine when using Server like you can with Workstation. You cannot do drag and drop between host and virtual machine with Server either. Nor would you be able to copy/paste a URL, etc. from host to virtual or vice-versa.
I would use Microsoft's program over the Server from VMWare. They made free something that many of wouldn't want. I don't think Server competes at all with Microsoft's free virtual machine. But the problem with Microsoft's offering is that it isn't very good compared to VMWareWorkstation. But it is free and that makes it the first virtualization program to try IMO. In Workstation 6 which I don't have you can take your virtual machines with you on a memory stick ...that would be nice. Can't do that with Server machines.
VMWare Player is free because it is preconfigured and you can get various configured OSes that have been made available that run in Player but you can't change them. You can run Player also within VMWareWorkstation so if you don't know how to install some Linux distro to a new virtual computer you have made, you can use Player within Workstation and run a premade virtual computer that already has some flavor of Linux all set up, configured and ready to go...but you can't change anything.
So, Server vs Workstation depends really on what you want the virtual machine for and on security issues. Server listens on ports that can be hacked but IPcop would fix that if you run it, but if not there is a vulnerability that workstation doesn't have. I want Workstation because it runs in User mode and I very much want to be able to shut down my virtual machines whenever I want and use them only when I want to use them and be able to with one simple click go to a different snapshot. Moving to another snapshot is done in the background and is very fast. I have 29 snapshots for one machine and the ease of making a snapshot before installing beta software, or any new software, and then reverting to that snapshot if the new software borks the computer is priceless and much faster and easier than relying on something like Acronis TI to go back to an earlier image.
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GILXA1226
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| reply to Bubba17
said by Bubba17 :said by genewitch :1) install VMWare (preferably player as well) Not to change the tenor of this thread over to VMWare, but a quick question about it, please. At the VMWare site, there exist numerous product offerings. It's "VMWare Workstation" that is targeted for home/SOHO use? If so, it's priced at $189.00. The "VMWare player" is free? Is there a free VMWare offering that I just overlooked? Or, is purchase required to use "VMWare"? Are there huge differences between VMWare and the free MS Virtual Machine that make VMWare worth the purchase? Thanks. Look for VMWare Server, it's their completely free offering. I find it is far superior to MS Virtual Machine. | |
Bubba17
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| reply to genewitch
said by genewitch :1) install VMWare (preferably player as well) Not to change the tenor of this thread over to VMWare, but a quick question about it, please.
At the VMWare site, there exist numerous product offerings. It's "VMWare Workstation" that is targeted for home/SOHO use? If so, it's priced at $189.00. The "VMWare player" is free?
Is there a free VMWare offering that I just overlooked? Or, is purchase required to use "VMWare"?
Are there huge differences between VMWare and the free MS Virtual Machine that make VMWare worth the purchase?
Thanks.
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