ztmike
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Michigan City, IN
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Re: Prices
said by TKJunkMail  :said by ztmike :I can't buy online either Why? Too young and no credit card? Or no money from parents? said by ztmike :As for the movies..Hollywood has been pumping out nothing but shit lately so I download those to(sic) If they are so bad, why bother stealing them? 1.) My credit is shot=No CC and don't have a bank yet for debit, will soon though. My parents don't give me money, I work for my shit.
2.) Flopping down $20+ for a crap movie=NO, getting it for free=Yes.
That 20 bucks can go towards gas or smokes or what not. I might go to the theater if there's actually a movie that's worth seeing. But not in awhile has there been one.
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Neyland
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USA | Why do you feel your entitled to the movie/music? Simply because you want it? |
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Markus
join:2005-05-27
Middlesboro, KY | Isn't almost everything viewed as a right or entitlement these days? |
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fiberguy
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I guess pre-paid cards, Pre-paid American Express, Visa, Master Card, and Secured credit cards are a bad thing why?
There is never an excuse for being unable to access online resources.
I think you'd be taken more serious if you didn't exaggerate so much. Movies don't cost $20.. They're usually about $7 to $9 and then there are the matinee prices.
Also, *I* personally can't stand behind anyone that votes by stealing. If the movie is "crap".. then don't go.. getting it for free=yes is .. I'll spare myself another moderation warning.
But, to summarize this... your smokes, which kill you and cost the rest of us a butt load of money so you can smoke, is the way to spend your money.. meanwhile, you'll simply TAKE what you want because, without even seeing it, that crap movie is ok to just "take"... and again, so you can smoke.
No wonder why your credit is crap.. you make some pretty questionable decisions.
In the end, you truly are ... troubled. I'll leave it there.
At LEAST try to argue like everyone else.. at LEAST come out and say that the laws are abused and you really do have the right to share like the others do. Don't come right out and say you're ok with stealing. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
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said by Markus :Isn't almost everything viewed as a right or entitlement these days? Well said. it would be a shame if the thieves would actually have to work for what they want like the previous thousand generations!
The only good thing to come with this attitude is the knowledge that these individuals will have to pick up the national deb, so they will be paying for something! This is something I don't have to worry about because I teach my kids to work, live within their means, and save for what they want. |
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MyDogHsFleas
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quote:
your smokes, which kill you and cost the rest of us a butt load of money so you can smoke,
The amusing/ironic/counterintuitive thing is that actually smokers cost our country less because they die quicker and don't draw their social security, and don't have such long drawn-out hospital costs before death (lung cancer/heart disease/emphysema kills you pretty quick, and once you're declared terminal, you just go to the hospice or home to die, not really that expensive compared to everything else). |
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caddyroger
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Why work when you can steal. you can steal smokes, gas, food sneak in theaters. Stealing from the internet is the same
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to MyDogHsFleas
Uhhh, health care costs for smokers cost us considerably. Although health care costs for fat people cost us more. But just because there are more fat people than smokers. One treatment of lung cancer > lifetime of social security checks.. |
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fiberguy
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You're kidding, right? 
Cute, however.
I'd have to disagree with you. There are many smokers that are uninsured for various reasons. Uninsured people are usually not seen for their health problems until they reach a stage III or IV. Those people are often only getting treatment in emergency rooms (which is where the "no one is to be turned away" comes to play) where it costs at least 10 times more to treat them than it would if they were to 1) simply stop 2) get early treatments which cost pennies on the dollar compared to the ER treatment.
But, your take on the path to death of these smokers isn't really accurate. The numbers on how much it cost to treat a smoker is out there, and too, disagrees with you. |
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fiberguy
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said by Ahrenl :One treatment of lung cancer > lifetime of social security checks.. ... who often also can start drawing SSI long before retirement for a life long career of disabilities. |
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w1zard
join:2001-12-22
Paradise, PA
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I have to agree with ya Fiber, on everything except the "at least try to argue like everyone else" comment. I actually commend the guy...as twisted as the rest of his thought process may be....for his honesty. Kind of refreshing to see someone speak bluntly and not try to cover up their stealing with a thinly veiled "I loooove my legal linux distros and thats all I use bit torrent for" shenanigans. |
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nekkidtruth
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London, ON
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said by S_engineer :This is something I don't have to worry about because I teach my kids to work, live within their means, and save for what they want. You are naive if you believe your children will actually live by this rule of thumb. When their best friends at school have everything they don't, your children will compensate. Whether you're ignorant to that fact or not.
Today's society doesn't have room for people to wait and save their money, nor for people to live within their means. Hence the reason personal debt is at such an all time high across North America.
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Omega
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said by caddyroger :Why work when you can steal. you can steal smokes, gas, food sneak in theaters. Stealing from the internet is the same Please tell me you don't consider sneaking food into a movie theatre stealing....
You know what's theft? $5 popcorn. |
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caddyroger
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| said by Omega :said by caddyroger :Why work when you can steal. you can steal smokes, gas, food sneak in theaters. Stealing from the internet is the same Please tell me you don't consider sneaking food into a movie theatre stealing.... You know what's theft? $5 popcorn. I take my 2 grand boys to the movies every once in a while. A medium popcorn soft drink and a candy bar them and a large popcorn and a large soft drink cost around $20 bucks plus the cost of the tickets. For me there no way I could get all that inside except for the candy.
The only reason it's $5.00 every one keeps buying it and guilty as charged on that.
No i don't consider sneaking food into a movie stealing.
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BAF
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| Haha at my movie theater I just walk in with food/drink from the food court. I have yet to have anything said to me. If they give me shit about it, I'll just return my movie ticket.
Also, there is no sign saying external food/drink prohibited, so in my opinion, they can't do anything anyway. |
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Pirate515
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Brooklyn, NY
|  said by BAF :Haha at my movie theater I just walk in with food/drink from the food court. I have yet to have anything said to me. If they give me shit about it, I'll just return my movie ticket. Also, there is no sign saying external food/drink prohibited, so in my opinion, they can't do anything anyway. Lucky you. In the movie theater by me where I go to most of the time, they do prohibit outside food/drinks, and what's worse than that is that they claim that it's for "security" reasons. Of course, those who go to that movie theater often know it too well that the real reason is because they want to charge you $3 - 5 for drinks that can be purchased for $1 - $1.50 in a grocery store across the street. And to top that, if someone tries to come in with a bag, they search that too, although they stay away from searching coats/jackets and purses. So actually, in the winter time it's pretty easy for me to "smuggle in" a bottle of soda and/or some candy. Summer time is a different story though.
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MyDogHsFleas
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yeah I was wrong thanks people. |
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said by ztmike :1.) My credit is shot=No CC and don't have a bank yet for debit, will soon though. My parents don't give me money, I work for my shit. 2.) Flopping down $20+ for a crap movie=NO, getting it for free=Yes. That 20 bucks can go towards gas or smokes or what not. I might go to the theater if there's actually a movie that's worth seeing. But not in awhile has there been one. As long as this is the face of the BT crowd, the tool will never have legitimacy. |
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
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said by Pirate515 :Lucky you. In the movie theater by me where I go to most of the time, they do prohibit outside food/drinks, and what's worse than that is that they claim that it's for "security" reasons. Of course, those who go to that movie theater often know it too well that the real reason is because they want to charge you $3 - 5 for drinks that can be purchased for $1 - $1.50 in a grocery store across the street. And to top that, if someone tries to come in with a bag, they search that too, although they stay away from searching coats/jackets and purses. So actually, in the winter time it's pretty easy for me to "smuggle in" a bottle of soda and/or some candy. Summer time is a different story though. What you don't realize is that the Movie theaters pass back 98-100% of ticket revenue to the Movie Distributer as required by their contract. Theaters no longer buy movies and show them to make money off tickets. The Distribution companys provide the movie reels/Digital discs/downloads (some of the larger theaters are distributed to through a secure WAN download network) at no/minimal cost and now require that they pass back all ticket revenue and as a result they can only make money on the extras. Food, drink and candy are the only money they make.
So yea, when you sneak in food, drink and candy without the theaters permission you are directly taking revenue from the theater and only giving money to the Movie company. Hurt your local business and help Hollywood. Good old American tradition. |
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
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Personally I hope you lose your job as a result of someone stealing at the business you work at. Harsh I guess, but I'm tempted to write an email suggesting that the RIAA and MPAA sue you based on your admission on this site. It would be trivial for them to extract a pound of flesh.
Then not only will your credit be bad but you will owe the *AA's $100k each, then you will be forced to really man up and actually pay for what you used. Regardless of your statements on quality, your consumption of the merchandise in question shows your hypocrisy, if you really did think everything sucked you wouldn't be stealing it. If you were a real man and you couldn't afford it you wouldn't steal it, you would wait until it was on TV.
You aren't entitled to the work of others. If you don't like their price, don't consume it. But of course I have morals and you apparently don't. |
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