unlim1ted
@telus.net
| reply to analyst88
Re: Any ISP in Calgary with no cap?
netscape »www.highspeed.netscape.ca/produc···s_hs.php
yak »yak.ca/index.aspx?id=26&lg=en
its interesting that yak (a teksavvy reseller) offers unlimited out west but teksavvy does not. |
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nanook
Premium,MVM
join:2007-12-02
 ·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by unlim1ted :yak » yak.ca/index.aspx?id=26&lg=enits interesting that yak (a teksavvy reseller) offers unlimited out west but teksavvy does not. And they even do it for $1/month less than what TekSavvy charges in AB for 200GB and even more amazingly, $5/month less than what TekSavvy charges in ON/QC for unlimited  
"Get unlimited downloads with yakHighSpeedInternet! For only $34.95 per month" |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| If they're larger, they may not be a TSI reseller, but a TSI wholesaler. They may have a relationship like an MVNO, where they'd pay a base fee for the line, then buy a large quantity of bandwidth (say, tens of terabytes per month). At that point, they can redistribute the bandwidth as they see fit. They'd be making the same value judgements as a "real" ISP.
In short, they're likely using the low-bandwidth users to subsidize the high-bandwidth users, and average the two prices. People who don't need unlimited pay more, people who do need it pay less. |
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unlim1ted
@telus.net
| said by Guspaz  :If they're larger, they may not be a TSI reseller, but a TSI wholesaler. yak subscribers are assigned teksavvy hostnames, pretty sure they resell and not wholesale.
said by Guspaz :In short, they're likely using the low-bandwidth users to subsidize the high-bandwidth users, and average the two prices. People who don't need unlimited pay more, people who do need it pay less. isnt that the same for all isps, reseller or not? i find it amusing a tsi reseller can out price their own provider in the east, offer unlimited in the west, and provide a modem in the 34.95/month price. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| said by unlim1ted :
yak subscribers are assigned teksavvy hostnames, pretty sure they resell and not wholesale. They would have to be, otherwise Yak would have to pay Bell, and they'd be a regular Bell wholesaler like TekSavvy is (even if they paid TekSavvy for use of their equipment).
There's no indication that they're not wholesaling service like an MVNO is. In fact, it seems likely. Only Rocky could tell us.
How does Virgin Mobile (Yak) undercut Bell Mobility (TekSavvy)? They're just buying minutes (gigs) and redistributing them in a different way. |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
| We help Yak on some fronts but some are there own.... We don't touch the mobility side.
We have just under 400 resellers/wholesalers throughout the four Provinces (AB/BC/ON/QC), for which we get involved with on varying levels... some from a Managed Virtual ISP level, some from a brokering the copper connection to Bell level and others as simple resellers selling TSI service.
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TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| I meant it more as a comparison between the reseller and an MVNO. With the argument that an MVNO just resells Bell's service, but can still offer a different service at different (lower) price points.
By this, I meant to say that a reseller could buy gigs in bulk much like an MVNO buys minutes, and provide a different service at different price points.
It's too bad that TekSavvy doesn't own the lines, without that $20.50 fee we might see some really interesting offerings from companies interested in higher risk services. |
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nanook
Premium,MVM
join:2007-12-02
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to R0CKY
said by R0CKY :We help Yak on some fronts but some are there own... we get involved with on varying levels... What does a customer get that differs between TSI's residential DSL offering and Yak's (apart from the 200GB vs. "unlimited")?
Presumably Bell gets the same $20.50 either way and is responsible for the same copper and related services either way. So what is the difference from the CO onwards to the Internet cloud?
When a Yak customer calls customer service with a technical problem who do they get to yack to, a Yak agent or someone at TSI? (I assume that when a customer calls with an admin/billing issue they get to a Yak, not TSI, agent.) |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON | We participate on a technical level.
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TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. |
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