jefe
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join:2001-05-19
Northport, NY | [AT&T] Text message rate increase...
Just got my AT&T bill. It included a notice that effective 3/30/08 the charge for text messages will be $0.20.
Messaging package rates are unchanged. |
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gdm
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join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Yeah I heard that was coming. I think the cell carriers want you on a text plan and if you don't want one then you will pay for it. |
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NY Tel
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
 ·VOIPo
2 edits | reply to jefe
said by jefe  :Just got my AT&T bill. It included a notice that effective 3/30/08 the charge for text messages will be $0.20. Messaging package rates are unchanged. Verizon just did the same thing last month. |
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C DM
join:2002-12-31
| said by NY Tel :said by jefe :Just got my AT&T bill. It included a notice that effective 3/30/08 the charge for text messages will be $0.20. Messaging package rates are unchanged. Verizon just did the same thing last month. Yeah, I think it's effective as of the beginning of March for VZW. |
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BlitzenZeus
Burnt Out Cynic
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join:2000-01-13
Beaverton, OR | reply to jefe
The funny part is they make more money from sms than anything else, sms is almost no traffic on the network. |
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NY Tel
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Smithtown, NY
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| said by BlitzenZeus :The funny part is they make more money from sms than anything else, sms is almost no traffic on the network. Yup, one (1) single sms message uses 1 kilobyte which is teeny tiny (those are technical wireless terms  )
Compare that to the kind of bandwidth a voice call uses and yes I have long said that the light bulb went off in someones head domestically when they realized the cost/benefit ratio of text messaging.
Overseas, I think they are a few years ahead of us in terms of volumes of text messages sent and received.
Of course, my kids could write their own white paper on "who can send the most text messages in a one month period"...
Luckily, we have unlimited texts on our plan. |
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BlitzenZeus
Burnt Out Cynic
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join:2000-01-13
Beaverton, OR
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Which is why its insane that they charge so much per message.... it used to be used only for the old voicemail systems, now they want to make a huge profit from it. Amazingly consumers can't stop texting when they are an insane price. I don't like to use sms at these prices, I rarely use sms, but even on prepaid the cost of one sms is the price of one minute of talking, wtf... |
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jefe
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join:2001-05-19
Northport, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| As usual....the law of supply & demand prevails.
We don't text message much, but for a younger generation, sms is probably the main reason to have a cell phone.
It reminds me of someone at 3M realizing they could actually sell left over paper scrapes from other processes and call them...sticky notes.  |
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NY Tel
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
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1 edit | reply to BlitzenZeus
Actually I did an experiment (I have a company issued Sprint Blackberry and my wife has a Verizon Wireless Blackberry)and we have discovered PIN to PIN massages which on Verizon, do not count as sms but go against the unlimited data plan she has. For me on Sprint, I think they lump them in as sms.
PIN to PIN messages are not encrypted but they go through immediately and is almost like using an instant messenger program. Also, they are not limited to 160 characters. Yesterday I sent my wife a news article and sent it as a PIN to PIN ans she got the whole thing.
If anyone has a Blackberry (regardless of carrier) you can send to other "Berries". I am available to test PIN messages to anyone who wishes to play. Just PM me and we can swap PINS> |
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | reply to jefe
That reminds me to turn off text messages for my Verizon phone. |
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jefe
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Northport, NY
·Verizon FIOS
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I use PIN messaging on my work Blackberry too. With AT&T PIN messages are data...not SMS. In fact, when I travel to a few parts of the world where cellular data still isn't available, SMS messaging is.
The feature I like about PIN is you can tell when the message has been delivered.
But I'm under the impression that PIN messages are indeed encrypted, as are Blackberry BES messages. Where's your source that PIN messages are unencrypted? |
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NY Tel
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Smithtown, NY
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| Apparently my source was incorrect and this page:
»na.blackberry.com/eng/ataglance/···jsp#faq4
speaks to and implies that they ARE encrypted.
That's what I get for believing a 12 year old posting information on a Blackberry message board....  |
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jefe
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Northport, NY | Say what? Information posted on a message board incorrect? Say it ain't so..... |
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NY Tel
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Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| said by jefe :Say what? Information posted on a message board incorrect? Say it ain't so..... Well everything posted here is fact because we are more discriminating and I know most of us are well past 12 exponentially speaking. |
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Alcohol
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join:2003-05-26
Somerset, NJ
| reply to NY Tel
said by NY Tel :said by BlitzenZeus :The funny part is they make more money from sms than anything else, sms is almost no traffic on the network. Overseas, I think they are a few years ahead of us in terms of volumes of text messages sent and received. This is true, but don't forget they are mostly on a pay per use system. |
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
1 edit | reply to NY Tel
said by NY Tel :said by BlitzenZeus :The funny part is they make more money from sms than anything else, sms is almost no traffic on the network. Overseas, I think they are a few years ahead of us in terms of volumes of text messages sent and received. And you are not kidding: »www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/···ast-year
quote:
snip... Filipinos increased the number of text messages they sent last year two fold, averaging 1 billion daily, industry figures showed.
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NY Tel
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| said by CylonRed :said by NY Tel :said by BlitzenZeus :The funny part is they make more money from sms than anything else, sms is almost no traffic on the network. Overseas, I think they are a few years ahead of us in terms of volumes of text messages sent and received. And you are not kidding: » www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/···ast-year quote:
snip... Filipinos increased the number of text messages they sent last year two fold, averaging 1 billion daily, industry figures showed.
Wow - that's some volume of text messages. |
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timcuth
Braves Fan
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join:2000-09-18
Pelham, AL
clubs:
·AT&T Southeast
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The thing is, it is an absolute rip-off. The incremental cost of a text message is very near to zero. They are raising the price because unwitting consumers will pay it.
Tim
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"Love consists in overestimating the difference between one woman and another" - George Bernard Shaw
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NY Tel
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| Ok after extensive testing today with thousands of text and PIN messages I have concluded that on Sprint, they also treat PIN messages as part of unlimited data.
OK, OK so it wasn't thousands (it was 1 pin message and 1 SMS)but it does show how ridiculous the charges are since you get a huge amount of text allowed in the pin message and it is included, whereas SMS limits you to 160 and "you pay" |
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DeeDee
@quiknet.com | What is PIN messages? |
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