RadioDoc
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Chicago, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
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March 14th, @02:29PM
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Re: Comcast hates competition!
Here in the developed world there are multiple choices. In Chicagoland alone Comcast has competition from WOW and RCN in various suburban and city areas. U-Verse is ramping up. Should Comcast be allowed to become so huge that they can control program origination? They're already in the shit for withholding their sports network from competitors.
As for satellite, what are their market shares? Do you even know?
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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March 14th, @03:32PM
| there are multiple choices. In Chicagoland alone Comcast has competition from WOW and RCN in various suburban and city areas. U-Verse is ramping up. Should Comcast be allowed to become so huge that they can control program origination? They're already in the shit for withholding their sports network from competitors. Once again Uverse is not subject to the 30% rule. is that fair? No. Those areas with more than one cable providor are in the extreme MINORITY. And if not having 2 means one doesn't live in the "developed world" then 99% of America is a 3rd world country then.
As for satellite, what are their market shares? Do you even know? doesn't matter if they had 50% the TV market they would NOT be affected by this rule adn that's kind of the point. They certainly have more than 30% of the satelite market. |
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RadioDoc
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Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
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March 14th, @03:33PM
| That's priceless.
U-Verse currently is a form of video on demand and will never even approach a 30% market share as such. Nice straw man.
The rule states 30% of the video market. That you want to ignore the definitions and wrap your argument around false assumptions (let along ignoring reality) speaks to how vacuous your argument is.
Go read the rules.
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Time Warner VOIP
·DSL EXTREME
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Should Comcast be allowed to become so huge that they can control program origination? They're already in the shit for withholding their sports network from competitors.
I totally agree that's a major problem, but how about enacting regulations that address that specific issue, rather than a "30% market cap"? Because again, I would really hate to lose my Time Warner service and get stuck with some half-baked cable company simply because the FCC doesn't like TW's size. |
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bobjohnson
join:2007-02-03
Titusville, FL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Vonage
| What I see that sucks about this cap is not just about the tv, but this includes internet, phone and the other services that they offer.. They don't even have the option for those services and it's not included in the cap... The telco tv will take years to get big enough to compete with comcast or tw, and will never make it to the rural areas.. but since they made this rule it should be universal with tv providers (except dish and such) because they technically cover like 99% of the us markets... |
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hottboiinnc
Kyle
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | reply to RadioDoc
How is U-Verse a form of VoD? I didn't know you got to select what shows you wanted to watch all the time. I thought it was just like cable just according to AT$T used a different platform for delivery. |
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RadioDoc
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Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| It's video over IP which is not sent until you 'order' it via the remote, which is the same as VoD. The only difference is that it picks up live program feeds instead of recorded feeds. It has more in common with SDV than traditional digital cable.
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| said by RadioDoc  :It's video over IP which is not sent until you 'order' it via the remote, which is the same as VoD. The only difference is that it picks up live program feeds instead of recorded feeds. It has more in common with SDV than traditional digital cable. Wow.
And that makes a difference? Its still TV service. VoD is content stored on servers, not a live feed. Hence = TV. But even if it was, So? |
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RadioDoc
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Chicago, IL | In the context of the FCC rules, there is a difference. By your definition, YouTube is cable if you watch it on your TV. So would be anything via Apple TV.
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anonomous
@comcast.net
| Why does the FCC have all those stupid technicalities? What is it, for the bells to be able to get around obstacles cable can't(thanks to FCC chairman Martin  ). I'm no cable fan boy(I think FIOS is a great service overall), but Martin has an extreme bias and it isn't right. |
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RadioDoc
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March 16th, @02:48PM
| What technicalities are you complaining of? These rules were written before Martin was on the FCC and came via directives from Congress. The Communications Act is not an FCC document...they are tasked with implementing it.
Cable is the one who fought to have their non-video services classified as "information services" not subject to common carrier regulation. The rest of this stems from that.
Don't believe everything you read on company websites.
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