Bee Beep
join:2007-09-21
Scarborough, ON
1 edit | Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. Recently, my BT download is limited to 30k. No matter if I am opening 1 torrent or 10 torrents at a time, the total download had never go over 30k. Before I decided to change to Teksavvy from Bell, I was able to do 50k with Bell's throttle. I heart everybody saying how Teksavvy won't throttle your P2P bandwidth and stuff. It work great for me at the beginning, but I think that is all history now.
P.S. I had been doing BT 24/7 for a few years now. I know my setting and there is nothing wrong with them. | |
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Mersault
join:2007-10-26
Toronto, ON | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. Have you checked your line stats? Perhaps Bell lowered your profile. What are your speed tests? | |
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bacon612
join:2007-10-31
Etobicoke, ON | working fine for me i have maxed out my TSI connection in 2 locations all weekend long... | |
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JayMan
Whoot
Premium
join:2002-06-05
Earth | No throttling going on here. | |
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TSI Rick
TSI Rick
Premium,VIP
join:2007-02-17
Merlin, ON
| We are not throttling anything and as far as I am aware will never throttle anyone. We don't believe in it. There is most likely an issue with your line or your hardware. If you'd like for us to check out either please feel free to post your username over in the direct forum.
Regards,
Rick
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 | Bee Beep
join:2007-09-21
Scarborough, ON
1 edit | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. said by TSI Rick  :We are not throttling anything and as far as I am aware will never throttle anyone. We don't believe in it. There is most likely an issue with your line or your hardware. If you'd like for us to check out either please feel free to post your username over in the direct forum. Regards, Rick Can you point me to the direct forum please. Thank you.
FYI. I am away from the remote (as far as all other tech guy told me), so I know my connection will be slow. I was able to do 100k-110k max BT downloading when I first join TSI (And before Bell start throttling), I am happy already, but now just keep steady at 30k. | |
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gord27
join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON | working fine here. strange how you had a 50k cap on bell and everyone else has a 30k cap... maybe you're special. | |
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beep
@teksavvy.com | try increasing your max upload speed... | |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
 ·ELECTRONICBOX
| I've never done BT. So I am no expert in this. But is it possible that the change is at the remote ends where the servers are overloaded and you can't get the same throughput as before ?
If you choose different torrent feeds, does the 30kbps limit still apply ? | |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. if your maxing upload your downloads will be slow | |
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otheroptions3
join:2007-01-17 | there is a good chance you could still be connected to bell. you waited out the 30 day cancellation thing etc.... | |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18
·TekSavvy Solutions..
2 edits | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. pleae post here
»/forum/teksavdirect
if you have a green glow over tsidirect
it is advisable not to post any personal information such as name, address, dsl user name in the regular teksavvy forum as any user can see it.
also make sure not to do that for your title in teksavvy direct as again anyone can see the titles.
good luck  | |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| Doesn't matter, if he's using his Sympatico login.
If the best speeds he ever got were under a megabit per second, he's on a really marginal line. He'd be syncing at 1-1.1 megabits per second (perhaps a 1.2mbit profile that couldn't quite sync at full speed).
It wouldn't take much of a change in line stats to require a drop from 1.2mbit to 384kbit for downstream sync rate. | |
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cluster5
join:2005-10-12
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Downloaded torrents yesterday and hit my maxium speed limit all the time. No throttling.
I'd check the following in order before jumping to throttling conclusion.
1. Router config (Port redirected)
2. Torrent client configuration (don't leave too many connection opened, otherwise the router my freeze/jam)
3. The torrent you're actually downloading dosen't have much seeds/tracker not responding/relying only on DHT with unpopular torrent.
4. Connection issue. | |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. I downloaded torrents yesterday too. I hit a max speed of 10.5 MB/s.
Of course, I was at a LAN party with a dedicated 150mbit fibre link just for the event... :P | |
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Bee Beep
join:2007-09-21
Scarborough, ON | Remember when Bell first start throttling and most people say there is no such thing happening? Calling people lier? Posting stat to show off how good the downloading is? | |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. We do not throttle. | |
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join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON
1 edit | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? said by GKC :I don't know how many times I've seen posts by Rocky and Rick assuring their subscriber's that TekSavvy does not throttle, and that, TekSavvy does not believe in throttling, and, yet, the message still isn't across that TekSavvy does not throttle. Wake up and smell the coffee, people, or we'll throw you all into the darkness for one hour on March 29 between the hours of 8-9 p.m. for Earth Hour to think about it.    It's easier for people to blame the ISP instead of themselves.
Bee Beep, try this torrent, it should either max out or get close to your max download speed: »releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-···.torrent | |
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NoOneImportant
@adultxspace.com
| Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. said by R0CKY :We do not throttle. Rocky, I'm not a technical expert but is it possible that Bell is doing the throttling before it goes to your network? | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-17
Woodbridge, ON
clubs:
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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| Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. AFAIK Bell doesn't have the technology to throttle like that. Instead what is possible if all downloads are going slow (not just torrents) then it's possible that Bell's network is saturated in the op's area... that wouldn't be anything that hasn't happened before. | |
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join:2008-02-03
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Videotron
| Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. said by zinc :AFAIK Bell doesn't have the technology to throttle like that. Even if Bell had the equipment, they probably would not have the legal clearance to actively interfere with wholesale traffic.
As you said in the rest of your post, Bell is most likely experiencing local link or equipment overload. Me and a few others in the Anjou and St-Leonard areas have encountered somewhat lousy speeds during peak hours over the last few weeks or months. In my case, line stats certainly are not to blame with 4dB up / 10dB down attenuation and 26dB down SNRM. Everything was great for the first two weeks from activation but it has been slowly going downhill with no change in line stats.
While downloading torrents, the highest I can push my upload before the whole thing starts falling apart is around 45KB/s. This is at least 20KB/s short of what I was expecting from a 800kbps sync. | |
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join:2004-08-17
| Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. said by InvalidError :said by zinc :AFAIK Bell doesn't have the technology to throttle like that. Even if Bell had the equipment, they probably would not have the legal clearance to actively interfere with wholesale traffic. As you said in the rest of your post, Bell is most likely experiencing local link or equipment overload. Me and a few others in the Anjou and St-Leonard areas have encountered somewhat lousy speeds during peak hours over the last few weeks or months. In my case, line stats certainly are not to blame with 4dB up / 10dB down attenuation and 26dB down SNRM. Everything was great for the first two weeks from activation but it has been slowly going downhill with no change in line stats. Yes, I'm in the same situation as you (Anjou). After 4PM the best download speed I can get is 600kbit. In the mornings it is 4.4megabit. It's been 2 months since I'm waiting for the ticket that TSI opened with Bell to come to a resolution. | |
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@teksavvy.com | Read a post posted by FCKINFEDUP in the sympatico forum. Suppose he's right? | |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
1 edit | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. What thread?
Edit: just found it... Not sure this is related... I think it's more of a load thing from what we're seeing on the way they're doing this, if this is what they're doing. | |
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load of what
@videotron.ca
| Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. from the times given in the complaints above and from the times given till the complainers mentioned the "load-balancing" stopped, its the same times exactly as the predefined times of the Bell throttle.
I guess the users who are affected should watch the times their speed drop to 30kB/s and when it stops.
But so far the times match bells throttle exactly.
So if bell is trying to toss technical terms such as "load balancing" to mean their throttle, then I think the only "load" is the "load" bell shoveled to you as the explanation
sad day indeed for those affected. | |
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R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
1 edit | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. I personally used the words load balance as they said a sort of global throttle, when the loads were heavy, but the problem with using throttle in this case is they're spreading the pain in areas that are overloaded. So, as it seems a throttle is in place it may also be a load-balance tactic of sorts.
Will respond with more details as they become available, as right we're pretty much just guessing too.
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join:2005-04-01
H0H0H0
| Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. said by R0CKY :I personally used the words load balance as they said a sort of global throttle, when the loads were heavy, but the problem with using throttle in this case is they're spreading the pain in areas that are overloaded. So, as it seems a throttle is in place it may also be a load-balance tactic of sorts. Will respond with more details as they become available, as right we're pretty much just guessing too. A load balance that only affects BT? Sound like throttling to me. People affected can do other protocols at full speed. Even the start and stop times seem the same as with BS.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. | |
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join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON
| said by R0CKY :I personally used the words load balance as they said a sort of global throttle, when the loads were heavy, but the problem with using throttle in this case is they're spreading the pain in areas that are overloaded. So, as it seems a throttle is in place it may also be a load-balance tactic of sorts. Will respond with more details as they become available, as right we're pretty much just guessing too. Is throttling Bell's answer to everything?
While I wasn't affected by any throttling last night, I'm still pissed off. Does Bell even realize that demand will continue to rise? All the money they're spending on throttling technologies, all the money they gain by raping their customers, or all the money saved by using low skill scriptmonkeys in India could be used to upgrade their pathetic network.
I don't use torrents that often anymore, as I mostly use Usenet. However, I'd still like to know that torrents aren't crippled should I decide to use them, which is just one reason why I left Rogers.
Bell pisses me off, they need to get their shit together. | |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
| I am very suspicious of "load balance".
Load balance would imply spreading the load on multiple links to provide more throughput.
From what I read here, it appears that they would be doing "load management" by reducing maximum throughput so that a few users don't take up all available bandwidth between a BAS and a DSLAM (or wherever there is a bottleneck).
Is raising DSL speeds beyond 5mbps results in such tactics, then I would rather they delay speed upgrades until they can raise speeds without any funky undocumented network "management" stuff.
Secondly, and more importantly, if they are doing load management or whatever they wich to call it, it should be done on all packets, not packets of a certain protocol.
My relationship is with Teksavvy. Not Bell. Bell is a supplier of data communications, like a transit provider and has no business messing with my traffic. They are paid to bulk carry it to Teksavy.
They can look at the PPPoE headers to determine the routing of the *PPPOE* packet, but they have no business looking at the TCPIP header to determine what type of data is being transmitted between me and my ISP.
First, Bell convinces Teksavvy to stop offering Login only accounts. and now it start to do funky network management stuff that negates the policies of the ISP.
Someone will have to put their foot down and tell Bell to stop this. | |
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GKC
join:2008-03-07
Toronto, ON | Teksavvy's throttling now? Exactly! | |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. jf forgot to mention to include a note of what you expect to be resolved | |
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Bee Beep
join:2007-09-21
Scarborough, ON | Thanks for all the inputs. I do believe there is more than one reason that my BT download is max out @ 30k while speed test and direct download go to 100k+. Hope that I can work with Teksavvy to solve my problem soon. Thanks again. | |
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TheS0urce
join:2008-02-26 | NO throttling here slowest was around 100 and fastest was almost 400k. If there was throttling my downloads wouldn't be that fast. If you are using crappy bitcomet it maybe the reason since some trackers and torrent clients block bitcomet users. | |
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pwnedrice
join:2006-04-27 | if you actually bothered to look at my screenshot...its uTorrent -_- | |
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join:2007-12-05 | Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. your only connected to 19 seeds on a public tracker, be happy to get 20k has nothing to do with throttling | |
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join:2008-02-26
| Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed. Here's my snap shot of torrent download. | |
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ForeverBlind
join:2003-11-27
Mississauga, ON | You can't judge torrent speeds by public trackers. Find a good private tracker and then test it. | |
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mandrews4
join:2008-02-11
Toronto, ON
| Just 'cause you're getting slow link speed doesn't mean the problem is Teksavvy.
I live in a condo in downtown Toronto and for the past several months, my DL speed was 1.7Mbps.
Bell kept on telling me the DL speed was due to my distance from the CO until recently. A few weeks ago, another Bell tech told me that my location wasn't so far from the CO, and my DL speed had been capped to avoid repeated link drops.
They paid a visit a few days later, replaced some existing cable with a fiber optic link and dropped the cap. My DL speed is now 6.5Mbps, and it was no fault of Teksavvy.
I don't deal with Teksavvy tech support much, since problems are rare.
The few times I have dealt with them, I've found them to be much more technically aware and accurate than Bell and the other ISPs I've tried | |
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pwnedrice
join:2006-04-27
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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heres the Open Office torrent, and yes its from their own BitTorrent servers so thats considered private enough?
still the same speed...
ill shut off the modem and router to see if anything goes back to normal | |
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