majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
| Not parity
The article states this makes the voice and cable operators equal. No it doesnt. The fcc states CABLE oeprators cant do agreements with tv.
So meaning verizon can still get apartments to do verizon fios tv only deals while cable cannot.
that does not sound fair to me. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Well the question arises whether Verizon is a cable provider with FiOS TV- after all, they are required to get local (or state depending on what legislatures have done) franchises. |
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RadioDoc
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Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to majortom1029
This is about phone service. No exclusives for that or for video programming now.
FiOS is under the same rules as are satellite providers.
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Cable Captive
@rr.com
| said by RadioDoc  :This is about phone service. No exclusives for that or for video programming now. FiOS is under the same rules as are satellite providers. Wrong.
This is not about phone service. It is about cable tv; the ruling prohibited phone companies from making the same cable-tv MDU deals that were overturned last month for the cable industry.
FiOS is NOT on parity or under the same rules as satellite.
FiOS has existing easements and rights as utility to access the building - cable and satellite do not. Thus, while they now cannot make exclusive deals, they enjoy a de facto MDU status where the apartment owner denies access to the cable or satellite vendors.
As an individual, you don't have the right to cable; you don't have the right to satellite without a south-facing balcony. You DO have the right to a telephone line, and Verizon has the right to replace that copper with Fiber.
Tis ironic, though, coming from the same FCC that took away line-sharing and gave Verizon a new national monopoly for FIOS, now finding fault with exclusivity.
Regardless, the consumer loses with these anti-MDU decisions - bulk purchase agreements regularly provide for discounts exceeding 50%. The cable, phone, and satellite companies will be crying all the way to the bank. |
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RadioDoc
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Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Anyone who believes that exclusive bulk purchasing is in the interest of the individual consumer must make their living in these anti-competitive, anti-consumer contracts or work for a cable outfit with a warehouse full of sour grapes and dull axes.
FiOS is not a subdivision where people live. You've got this precisely backward.
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Cable Captive
@rr.com
| said by RadioDoc :Anyone who believes that exclusive bulk purchasing is in the interest of the individual consumer must make their living in these anti-competitive, anti-consumer contracts or work for a cable outfit with a warehouse full of sour grapes and dull axes. FiOS is not a subdivision where people live. You've got this precisely backward. And someone who believes they aren't must NEVER have negotiated a bulk-purchase agreement.
Our last HOA MDU deal was $11/unit for what DirecTV and Dish (and Comcast) charge about $50/month for on an individual basis. No one has complained yet.
I do stipulate though, that to date, the advantage applies primarily to TV services, and in some rare cases, electric power purchases. Only a fool would get involved trying to resell basic telephone service or justify VOIP on cost-savings. Up until FIOS, broadband service offerings didn't have enough throughput to be practical for large-scale MDU implementation vs. cranky homeowners. Even with FIOS-like price/performance, I'd be very reluctant to implement a common broadband internet.
And no, I don't make money off MDU installs. I'm just familiar with the economics and the pitfalls as a real estate manager and a former life in the data center. |
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RadioDoc
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·AT&T Midwest
| Well I'm glad you got yours the way you wanted it. I am part of a 14,000 population blanket HOA-type wholesale arrangement which I am forced to pay into that Comcast doesn't give a crap about providing decent service to since they don't have to, having zero motivation. Even if we don't connect to cable we're on the hook for about $500 each per year to Comcast.
That's anti-competitive and precisely what the FCC is trying to end.
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