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INT0CABLE
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reply to quatrix
Re: Hollow Victory

we are the good guys


TK Junk Mail
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said by INT0CABLE See Profile :

we are the good guys
NO - you're not.


INT0CABLE
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you are mistaken on what is good and what is bad it seems

james1

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Good = whatever we do.
Bad = whatever anyone else does.


Doctor Four
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said by INT0CABLE See Profile :

we are the good guys
You know, I said absolutely nothing about good vs. bad in
my post. But Quatrix (whom I have on ignore, BTW), is putting
words in my mouth, assuming I said that. Seems all he did was
post a knee-jerk reaction to my comments.

But the MPAA, IFPI, RIAA and all the rest are indeed losing
the war. Piracy/infringement/filesharing/bootlegging cannot
be stopped.

It is like the wars on drugs, poverty and terror. Yes there
may be a few high profile victories here and there, but it
will never be completely eradicated.
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EricS

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It's legal to download.

If you upload and share, you will get caught by the MPAA.


Skeedatl
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reply to INT0CABLE
Wrong.

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reply to Doctor Four
I have no love for the MPAA or the RIAA, especially the RIAA. They have dug their own graves by not embracing technology and the internet, and then finding effective and
cheap alternatives to the dinosaur days they cling to. Oh, much of the music the industry highlights and advertises, just really sucks.

Anyway, you compared the fight to war on drugs, terror, and poverty. Just because we can't totally eradicate those things, doesn't mean we should stop trying. Should we just stop fighting all crime because there will always be crime? Should we stop fighting diseases just because there will always be diseases? I think not.


CoxCable4
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internet > yuo

Corydon
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said by Doctor Four See Profile :

It is like the wars on drugs, poverty and terror. Yes there
may be a few high profile victories here and there, but it
will never be completely eradicated.
This is true in the sense that trying to prevent people from copying stuff that other people created is a battle that will always be with us.

It is also true in the sense that the current weapons used to fight that battle are horribly stupid, counterproductive, and have effects on those of us who are caught in the crossfire that range from annoying to scary to downright deadly.

I'm a big fan of the GPL and its variants. I think people who volunteer their time and energy on projects that benefit us all deserve our undying gratitude.

I don't believe that because some people choose to donate their time, talent, expertise and hard work to the betterment of the community that everyone else should be forced to as well.

Creators of works of art (movies, music, literature, etc.) should have the freedom to choose whether to give away copies of their creation or sell them or keep them all for themselves. It's their work. It should be under their control.

That's not to say that the entire system of copyright isn't horribly flawed—it is. That's not to say that the **AAs haven't been incredibly stupid about how they have proceeded—they have been.

But I also think that devaluing the talent and hard work that goes into the creative process by freely copying the fruits of their labors without permission and without recompense is incredibly selfish and amoral. I've never seen any defender of copyright infringement make any kind of argument that would make me think otherwise.

On the other hand, some kind of moral argument can be made for legalizing drugs. I can also accept that some people, by dint of hard work, brains, and even a little luck will always end up better off than others. I can even accept that there may be some twisted, perverted kind of justice and morality at the core of some terrorists (Hell, the IRA used to get lots of funding from Americans back in the day).

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reply to mgbaker
War on drugs ? How about legalize it and let darwin's theory sort the trash from the rest. Imagine the taxes we could collect on this , not to mention the purity and addictiveness could probably be engineered out of the drug. But alas most addiction is because people have addictive personalities.

War on poverty ? Really we started one on that ? I wouldn't know that by looking at what the government does. But the taxes from said legalized drugs could help us build more subsidized housing to help fund the war on poverty.

War on terror ? Don't make me laugh here , you were sold a line of BS from the gubberment to help erode your freedoms. And they did it very well. Look at how intertwined the corporations that are making money off this "war" are with the government. They are a cancer growing on the backbone of America.

How about we take our troops from other countries and let them blow each other up instead of blowing up our troops ? They should not be fighting a war for corporations , they should be fighting for their freedom in their native country.

The "war" on piracy is next. Because we have to preserve our way of life right ? Let us all bow to the **AA heads and start raiding more countries to protect our way of life ! We must ! If the **AA had their way we would be invading any country that doesn't bend over to their way of doing business.
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