Search:  

 
 
   All ForumsHot TopicsGallery






how-to block ads


 
Forums » P2P Filters Not Ready For Prime Time » Flawed conclusions to study
Search Topic:
Uniqs:
127
Share Topic:
RSS topic:
toggle:
flat / full
normal / watch
Post a:
Post a:
Differentiating illegal & copyrighted content is DANGEROUS »
« Erroneous assumptions  
AuthorAll Replies


TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
clubs:
·Comcast


edit:
March 28th, @10:00AM

 Flawed conclusions to study

28 vendors they asked to participate in testing only five agreed

Based on the response to Internet Evolution's ground-breaking test of P2P filters, both ISPs and the music industry will have to wait a while before the power tools they need to beat back bandwidth hogs or stymie copyright violators are widely available.
So how did they come to the conclusion that tools don't exist when they only tested 5 of 28 products? The fact that 23 vendors refused doesn't mean their products don't work - only that they don't want their technology out there being examined where hackers can get an early crack at their code.

And of the 5 they did test, 2 passed the test.
--
My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page

jc100

join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable

True. Got to read into some of these so called studies. Still, ATT is trying to do everything in it's power to piss off the consumer. I've said it over and over now. ISPS have no jobs being the police. If they wish to assume that risk, they also assume the liability that goes along with it. A person who downloads illegal content that bypasses the filter WILL HAVE a valid argument. It was ATT's job to make sure material I find is legal. The filter did not stop me, sue ATT. In all respect, they'd be right. This is exactly why OTHER ISPS don't want the job of policing the NET. RISK and LIABILITY are not worth it in their minds, even with a good team of lawyers.


digitalfreak
Frodo failed. Bush has the ring

join:2005-12-09
49533

reply to TK Junk Mail
said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

28 vendors they asked to participate in testing only five agreed

Based on the response to Internet Evolution's ground-breaking test of P2P filters, both ISPs and the music industry will have to wait a while before the power tools they need to beat back bandwidth hogs or stymie copyright violators are widely available.
So how did they come to the conclusion that tools don't exist when they only tested 5 of 28 products? The fact that 23 vendors refused doesn't mean their products don't work - only that they don't want their technology out there being examined where hackers can get an early crack at their code.

And of the 5 they did test, 2 passed the test.
Uh, sure. I didn't see any indication that the source code or any other part of the software was made available by Internet Evolution to the public.


MattE
Obama '08
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
·Corporate Colocation

reply to TK Junk Mail
said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

28 vendors they asked to participate in testing only five agreed

Based on the response to Internet Evolution's ground-breaking test of P2P filters, both ISPs and the music industry will have to wait a while before the power tools they need to beat back bandwidth hogs or stymie copyright violators are widely available.
So how did they come to the conclusion that tools don't exist when they only tested 5 of 28 products? The fact that 23 vendors refused doesn't mean their products don't work - only that they don't want their technology out there being examined where hackers can get an early crack at their code.

And of the 5 they did test, 2 passed the test.
2 detected P2P traffic, but can't differentiate between legit and illegal traffic.

That's not passing a test, that's the ability to write your name on the paper.

The fact is, if you follow the NANOG list, the technology isn't there to do deep packet inspection at an AT&T like level. Just ROUTING traffic at 10G speeds without adding ridiculous latency is hard as hell. Oh sure, we'll see it eventually, right about the time a new technology comes out and Bit torrent is obsolete.

Now, if you're talking about putting a deep packet inspection device in each RT or in each CO, then you may possibly have the ability to differentiate and then filter material, but you're not going to do it on any high speed backbone links.


Nightshade
My political statement
Premium
join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR


edit:
March 28th, @02:35PM

reply to TK Junk Mail
said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

And of the 5 they did test, 2 passed the test.
So that's only a 40% chance that a filter will detect a P2P network. No exactly inspiring results for a filter and definitely not ready for prime time.
--
True Happiness Must Come From Within
Forums » P2P Filters Not Ready For Prime TimeDifferentiating illegal & copyrighted content is DANGEROUS »
« Erroneous assumptions  


Saturday, 11-Oct 16:42:51 Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Hosting by www.nac.net - DSL,Hosting & Co-lo | feedback | contact
over 9 years online! © 1999-2008 dslreports.com.
page compression OFF
Most commented news this week
· [140] It's Cable TV Rate Hike Season
· [97] Wholesale Bandwidth Prices Still Dropping
· [95] Is Comcast Cooking Up a 22Mbps/5Mbps Tier?
· [95] Symmetrical FiOS No Longer Qualifies For Bundle Discounts
· [84] Time Warner's Ugly Feud With LIN TV
· [77] Half Of New iPhone Owners Came From Verizon
· [70] Supreme Court TiVo/Echostar Ruling
· [70] Microsoft: U.S. Broadband Policy 'Total Failure'
· [67] Verizon Unveils Blackberry Storm
· [64] XOHM Online In Additional Launch Markets
Most people now reading
· Should hourly workers work for free thru lunch [General Questions]
· Safty Question about K & T wiring. Very worried... [Home Repair & Improvement]
· Extreme HD and Essentials [Verizon FIOS TV]
· [Connectivity] Neighbor using MY router to connect to Internet? [Comcast HSI]
· [Other] Did Joiphone sunrocket its users???? [VOIP Tech Chat]
· Does anyone know if Joi Phone has shutdown??? [cover,3028]
· Bandwidth Limits - All discussion here [Comcast HSI]
· Homeowner Says Cable Mistake Filled Kitchen With Raw Sewage [Comcast Cable TV]
· Norton AntiVirus 2009 conflicts with ZoneAlarm Pro 7.0.483.0 [Security]