Turbinator
join:2007-10-14
Mississauga, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to hilda_brute
Re: Usenet downloads affect by shaping?
I have heard of this Usenet thing for over 10 years of me being on the internet. However, I have never found a single explanation of what it is. Obviously it is not a website, or a FTP like service.
So what is it?
How do you access it?
How do you use it?
How do you search it?
How do you select and download a file? |
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aver
join:2007-12-03
Kitchener, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
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RDP Speed Test |
I just RDP'd to my home computer and when I downloaded a NZB file from the Usenet global search it was capped at 50 KB/s.. Does that imply that if you are connected VIA RDP that all traffic is throttled? |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | Most things we've seen so far is that it throttles the whole connection when it detects something it needs to throttle. But I'm not sure if that's conclusive. |
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aver
join:2007-12-03
Kitchener, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| said by Guspaz  :Most things we've seen so far is that it throttles the whole connection when it detects something it needs to throttle. But I'm not sure if that's conclusive. I will test my connection at home when I am downloading from Newsgroups.. But the really scary thing for me is that when I connected via RDP (NOT P2P or BT or NNTP) my entire connection was throttled.. Doesn't make sense that my downloads when I am connected over RDP wont hit full speed.. They always used to go full speed (even when I was with bell) |
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ymboc
join:2003-02-22
Ottawa, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| I suspect it targets anything with a high packet rate and/or a high transfer rate...
In my linked post above, usenet was the only application running. So I'm absolutely sure it was my usenet connection that was triggering the the throttle... what I didn't try is limiting my usenet client to a slower rate and see if that still tripped it.
I wonder how this is affecting the gamers. |
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aver
join:2007-12-03
Kitchener, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| said by ymboc :I suspect it targets anything with a high packet rate and/or a high transfer rate... In my linked post above, usenet was the only application running. So I'm absolutely sure it was my usenet connection that was triggering the the throttle... what I didn't try is limiting my usenet client to a slower rate and see if that still tripped it. I wonder how this is affecting the gamers. I noticed some lag last night on Xbox live.. The only problem is that I have no way to verify the transfer rate coming out of my xbox 360.. I wish I could so we could start figuring out what the heck bell is doing..
I think the best part of all this throttling is that it is only going to entice coders to become more clever to get around the throttling.. Bell is trying to fight a battle they have already lost.. I guess ignorance is bliss |
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canadabound
join:2008-03-27
 ·RCN CABLE
| reply to Turbinator
said by Turbinator :I have heard of this Usenet thing for over 10 years of me being on the internet. However, I have never found a single explanation of what it is. Obviously it is not a website, or a FTP like service. So what is it? How do you access it? How do you use it? How do you search it? How do you select and download a file? Here you go »shsc.info/NewsGroups |
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Stewy
Premium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON
| reply to Turbinator
said by Turbinator :So what is it? How do you access it? How do you use it? How do you search it? How do you select and download a file? I'm a Usenet guru, I'll answer your questions in a way that that you will understand. 
With Usenet, I can find a show for example and start the usenet download in under a minute.
>What is it
View it like this;
Torrents are more of a permanent repository (to an extent)
Usenet is more of a temporary repository, about 70-150 days on average depending on the provider.
>How do you access it
You need a Professional/Commercial Usenet feed which uses the NNTP protocol. I personally use Newsguy.com
You then setup a newsreader I use 2 Xnews and Agent
>How do you search it
I personally use binsearch.net (free). Once you do your search you will see 1 2 3 ect. on the left side.
Put a checkmark on the collection of files that you want.
Then click on Create nzb
Then import those nzb files in Agent and select to download at will.
For example, goto binsearch.net and put in
"Biggest Loser S05E14"
Select Maximum Age of Post "1 week"
and "show by Calendar date" and hit search
it will give you this
The.Biggest.Loser.S05E14.PDTV.XviD-DIMENSION - [01/61] - "the.biggest.loser.514.pdtv-dimension.nfo" yEnc (1/1)
collection size: 780.37 MB, parts available: 2118 / 2118
- 1 nfo file
- 10 par2 files
- 49 rar files
- 1 sfv file
view NFO
Then check the box right beside the 1. with a checkmark and then select "create nzb" then load up Agent which is a nzb compatible newsreader. I even have nzb files to open up automatically with Agent, and have agent to automatically start to download the imported nzb files.
Like I said I can search and start downloading files in under a minute and nntp is "unshaped".
and this is just the tip of the iceberg |
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